That will not happen. Forced teaming will though. If you can't leave the the shipper or receiver's property, your co-driver will be able to.
The golden age of trucking is over. If you don't want to team, there are long lines of immigrants who will. I'm quite sure the megas thought of that before they had the ATA lobby for these regulations to be passed.
ELD IS GOING AWAY !!!!!
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That is why the trucking industry is rife with mouth-breathers who think nothing of ####ting in a bag and throwing it out on the nicely manicured lawn at the shopping center. -
The problem is that the exact same group that cries about losing their freedom to do things their way, the way they have always done them, is also the exact same group that is most likely to be "adjusting" their logs to make a little more money, to make things more convenient, or just because they can.
It is this very group that is driving the need or pressure to mandate ELDs, because it is much easier to enforce the law with ELDs than with paper logs, and any time you have a law that you have a hard time enforcing, you find more effective ways to enforce it, so those who are always looking for ways to get away with a little more, are the ones making this mandate possible.
If we as an industry was known as being trustworthy, the enforcement would be much more relaxed. But every time a DOT officer looks at a logbook, they know they have to be ready to outsmart a very creative abstract artist, and so the few honest drivers get this same scrutiny. (And I would bet that even the "honest" drivers here have "adjusted" things once in a while to make it home, or to a better truck stop, or to an appointment or out of a shippers lot, because they can.)
And since this is so common, and everybody knows it, and the few accidents that happen with HOS violations for the driver get big news coverage, and the country generally hates trucks anyway, they are going to keep tightening things until the laws are followed.
So thank you everyone for all the work you have put into giving Big Brother a reason to crack down on the industry!
(and as people find ways to cheat the current ELDs, I would expect that it will cause even them to be tightened down, until pulling away from the dock far enough to close the doors will change it to Driving, and if GPS position changes between log events without any driving being done, that it automatically forwards the logs to FMCSA...
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What a load of horse pucky........
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I notice the more money was brought up that's why a company driver cries because someone may make more money. Ridiculous
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I drive a day cab. I'm home most every night. Today I had to wait to load. I get to the pad and I had to wait to unload. Then I had to wait 2.5 hrs for school bus curfew. I had less than 6 hrs driving but I would have been over on the 14 hour rule. HOS rules are not workable for everyone. I could easily live with the old rules 10 hrs driving 8 off. They should make them an option. Or better yet leave me be and let me do my job.
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16? 20?
And what if a customer or boss is pressuring you to run longer to make a delivery? How far would you push it, worst case scenario? -
Your whole thought process is wrong. It's not about seeing how far I can push it. Be a man. Learn to say no but if you say your going to do...get it done.
Here is an example. I was off Saturday get a call Sunday around 5 pm. I run it thinking I'd be home by midnight. Silly me, I get home 4 am. All legal. Sleep for a few hours, until about 9 am, get up feeling like crude. Take a long nap in the afternoon. I get a call Monday evening about 6. I answer thinking I'll be good to go I feel good and I'm ready to run. But the load was not to pick up until 5 am (2.5 hours away) Tuesday. I was legal to run it. Right? But I said no. I would have been on no shape to drive Tuesday morning even though I would have been legal. Just because the law says I can does not me I will. the inverse is also true.
My job is far different than your job (I assume you're otr). We both may drive trucks but I would not do yours and you wouldn't do mine. The rules were made for you and your type of driving. -
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