Need Help With GPS

Discussion in 'Trucking Electronics, Gadgets and Software Forum' started by CSB, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    The Google Maps are street view only... nothing about the Core Maps is known with this type of maps... A lot more goes into maps than just a street view..
     
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  3. TommyTrucker88

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    I guess if your going to pick a gps just get ready for the worst.
    Its like the tesla or self driving cars, Dont fall asleep at the wheel thinking it will drive itself without a problem or two.
    I just got the rm tnd gps and its been good so far, butIt does give some quirky directions sometimes.
    Ive been told to for example stick to the left lane to get onto i40 east bound while clearly the signs above the highway say i40 east is on the right side not the left. And once id get onto the correct lane the gps would act like it dident f* anything up and keeps me going on the right path. Or just today i was supposed to go North bound and it was telling me to go South bound, even tho the gps highlighted the north bought lane.
    The gps is like your nagging grandma telling you to eat your pea soup because it will prevent your hair from falling out.
     
  4. Mark Kling

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    You do realize that if you looked just a little harder you would have found a support thread about an inch down from this one... Please post this in the support thread so that I might help you.

    Mark
     
  5. TommyTrucker88

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    Yes i realized before posting and I wasnt looking for support, i was just making the point that nothing electronic is perfect and come with flaws and talking about a few i have ran into.
     
  6. Mark Kling

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    I agree, but you mentioned a few issues with directions. Do we just live with them or do we try to fix them. Nothing against you in this, but this is a public forum and how others perceive the device is often by what is posted.

    It would be nice to know where and some more details... Like what route, what kind of unit you have, etc.

    If it is a Junction View issue then it needs to be fixed if not already..

    Mark
     
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  7. HaulinCars

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    I'm completely confused by that statement. And I have no idea what your trying to say.

    Core maps?
    Google maps is Street view only?

    All I know is when I use the map on my phone I get 3 good usable routes which are very often different than what either of my GPSs give me. But my main comment about my phone map was that I get to see all 3 at the same time clearly and easily so it makes it easy to pick the one I want. And the view it gives me is definitely NOT Street view it is an overhead view as if I were looking straight down on a paper map.

    I have no idea how they make it do that, nor do I really care. I like it and I wish Garmin and Rand MC Nally would figure it out and do the same.

    But I have no idea how or what core maps is/are and or Street view or not has anything at all to do with my comment?
     
  8. Mark Kling

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    Street view is simple taking pictures of the street. A lot more goes into making a Map. You have restrictions, type of road, class of road, direction of road, etc etc. Google Maps does not see what actually makes up the layout of the road. Google Maps is simply a car running around taking pictures along with satellite views.

    Google Maps in routing uses car parameters since it knows nothing about truck restrictions.

    As a Professional driver you should be concerned about the route you are taking. Are you on a STAA route or Non-STAA route? If you are on a Non-STAA route with a 53' trailer you can stand the chance of getting a ticket for being OD on that road.

    A road is not a truck route simply because other trucks are on it. Trucks have restrictions and Google Maps does not take these into consideration when routing.
     
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  9. HaulinCars

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    Gee, I'm fairly certain that not only did I NOT say a thing about truck routes in particular I'm absolutely posative I didn't.

    There are plenty of CDL drivers who are not pulling 53' trailers and can use a much wider selection of roads. But even with that said, my comment was not even directed at CDL use, it was a general statement about being able to see different route options on the screen to be able to pick the one I want.

    Yes this is a forum made up almost entirely of CDL drivers and I assume they all have enough sense not to try to run a 80,000 pound rig down a dirt road that leads to a country ferry across the Mississippi river.

    I still don't understand how anything you have said relates directly (or really even indirectly) to being able to see 3 route options on the screen simultaneously when it comes time to pick one.

    And it is true that Google maps does not know anything about truck restrictions. Apparently neither does my Garmin diesel or my TND because at one point or another both have tried to send me down what was CLEARLY not even sort of a truck route. In fact I have been told, "Turn right and proceeded OFF ROAD to...." Truck route??? Wasn't even a Jeep trail!!

    Also not sure how it really contributes to this thread.

    Thanks, I'm out.
     
  10. Mark Kling

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    You keep mentioning about the TND Routing.. give me details.. I work much better in finding issues with details.

    And common sense does not apply because you have a CDL... Plenty of new stories about being on a wrong road, getting thousand's of dollars in fines, cannot convert lbs to ton so we drop a bridge.....

    Again their are many many more components that go into maps and what is allowed on the segments of the road. Roads will have weigh limits that may/may not be posted. Since I take it you haul cars you would be more on the secondary roads. These type of roads are more restricted in that they were not made for a class 8 truck nor the weight. Simply giving you three routes is great for a car. Not so for trucks. The tractor alone weighs about ten tons. Google Maps is great for going in on street view and looking at your route to see if it is truck friendly or not. Freeway routing is easy. Routing on secondary roads will lead to more restrictions so routing may be limited.

    But we could argue the point all day. I work with the maps so I know more details in what actually is in the core map data.

    In the end it is up to the Professional Driver to know if they route they are on is truck legal for the type of vehicle they are driving.
     
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  11. HaulinCars

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    No, what I keep mentioning is that I like to be able to simultaneously see a choice of 3 different routes to choose from. And that I like the way that particular screen is presented on my Android phone and that I wish Garmin and Rand would do that particular screen in the same sort of way. (And since I'm driving a truck, sure, it would be great if I happen to have purchased a truck specific GPS that all 3 routes would be truck approved) PERIOD.

    I really don't care about the technical aspects of getting it done. If I did I would be working for Garmin not driving a truck.

    What is this insistence you have with demanding I give you specific details about the poor routing decisions made by my GPS?? And who are you to be making these demands? Especially in a thread that you did not start. You have successfully hijacked this thread into something that the OP never intended it to be. And even worse I seem to be an accomplice in the crime.

    Now unless you are some kind of engineer directly connected with a major GPS manufacturer I'm done talking to you and you really should apologize to the OP for hijacking his thread.
     
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