Can you cheat an eLog?

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DISPATCERS DO IT ALL THE TIME. They can add any amount of hours to your long day or week. They just ask you to sign off, (umm, that's a Federal Document, Dude!) Here is just one letter on this:
The Trucker magazine article - “ATA, FMCSA wrong, driver believes; ELDs easy as paper logs to falsify”
My name is Jeff Flora. I don’t know where the FMCSA and the ATA get their info from, but they are dead wrong as far as ELDs being harder to falsify than paper logs.

I downright refuse to approve my logs; I’m on ELDs and my dispatcher has falsified them twice and I’ve only been here a month and a half. I tried to call FMCSA and got a recording. I left a message and they never called back and most likely won’t know they can be changed at the company but don’t care. They’ll let a driver change a paper log and get caught. Lord, he will be fined put out of service and then have to talk to safety if he don’t lose his job. This is wrong.

OOIDA told me they have had several complaints on this so companies can do what they want and get away with it. My dispatcher changed my logs and I still shut down when I was originally supposed to because I was tired. They didn’t like it, but I really don’t care. The load was still on time. In fact, I was early.

The government is just throwing restrictions at us so we can’t make any money. It’s pure communism.

My company……………..will never claim up to doing wrong. No company will, and the FMCSA and the ATA will always back the company instead of the driver, even though we are the ones that keep this country moving.

Thanks

Jeff Flora

 

DISPATCHERS DO IT ALL THE TIME:
The Trucker magazine article - “ATA,FMCSA wrong, driver believes; ELDs easy as paper logs to falsify”
My name is Jeff Flora. I don’t know where the FMCSA and the ATA get their info from, but they are dead wrong as far as ELDs being harder to falsify than paper logs.

I downright refuse to approve my logs; I’m on ELDs and my dispatcher has falsified them twice and I’ve only been here a month and a half. I tried to call FMCSA and got a recording. I left a message and they never called back and most likely won’t know they can be changed at the company but don’t care. They’ll let a driver change a paper log and get caught. Lord, he will be fined put out of service and then have to talk to safety if he don’t lose his job. This is wrong.

OOIDA told me they have had several complaints on this so companies can do what they want and get away with it. My dispatcher changed my logs and I still shut down when I was originally supposed to because I was tired. They didn’t like it, but I really don’t care. The load was still on time. In fact, I was early.

The government is just throwing restrictions at us so we can’t make any money. It’s pure communism.

My company……………..will never claim up to doing wrong. No company will, and the FMCSA and the ATA will always back the company instead of the driver, even though we are the ones that keep this country moving.

Thanks

Jeff Flora

 

On my KeepTruckin elog I can edit every thing including the location.

 

Nope. Fascism. Under pure Communism, everyone works for the government. All property, manufacturing, everything is a function of the government. It is owned and operated by the government. Farms are collectives that you work, you do not own the land. There is more laxness in such areas by the Chinese Communists and such in recent years. N. Korea is a major holdout and still owns everything. Communism is pure dictatorship in it's most perfected sense.

Under Fascism, like Germany during Hitler, Italy under Mussolini, etc, you were still allowed to own and run businesses like here. Fascists hated Communists. The only exception with Fascism was that the government regulated how you did it, what conditions you had to meet to operate with the good graces of the government, regulated who you could do business with, etc. Like here. And just like in Germany of the 30's/40's, if one was associated with the political elite (Nazis) you were granted exemptions and other little things to make running a business easier and knock out the competition. Like here. Amazing... we fought a war to stop Fascism from dominating the world, yet we thru all those vets, dead and alive, under the bus and have adopted Fascist ways. Sad.

 

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Are you listening to yourself? What part of that statement makes any sense to a thinking person? The US government derives about 80% of it's "revenue" (taxes) workers like truck drivers. Why do they want them to make less taxable income?

I suppose you could make the argument there may be a bit more tax revenue to extract from MORE drivers on the tax roles, making LESS gross wages? (there is always and only a finite amount of freight) And eLogs certainly create this dynamic.

 

You might as well quit trying. In fact that Elog is a liability. Real life does not fit exactly into cut and dry electronic logs very well.

If you want me to break the Elogs and cheat the heck out of it, I need to be there dealing with the system directly. Im pretty sure I'll find something to take advantage of. I consider myself pretty good with cheating the paper logs.

By the same token why cheat? You are the one setting up to pay a bunch of money to DOT if you get caught. And worse you expose your company to losing their freedom if you killed someone outside of your legal logs in certain states like Georgia.

The best way to solve the problems imposed by logging of any kind is to work with your dispatcher and make appointments you know you can keep legally no matter how bad the traffic or weather gets on the way there.

The biggest liability to being a Professional Truck Driver is simple. Other People make promises on the phone with shippers and recievers you cannot keep. (Or should try.) If you are truly a part of a team, these shippers, brokers, dispatchers and recievers will be calling YOU asking YOU when can you be somewhere with a delivery in a legal, lawful manner and no damage to your freight or speeding etc etc etc.

When I started, people say be there 8 Am monday. It's there. If it's not there is something wrong with me and I'll be replaced. It's when everyone started using appointment times is when the whole thing started coming off the rails. Its really important to be there when there is a crane and a crew waiting for you to be there with that load for them at a specific hour. Because they cost a bunch of money. But it's not that important for wally mart to impose a strict appointment time only to see you sit there next to the gate 5 freaking hours waiting for a dock. It's stupid. They are stupid. Yes I said stupid.

 

Large[r] carriers can deal with the restrictions of eLogs. They have a whole fleet of additional drivers with hours to spare to repower a load. Small fleets on the other hand will have to learn to cheat them or learn to live with greatly reduced revenue until such time as they can learn to work with "the system" and get their customers to go along with the new program.

 

I feel sorry for all you van pullers when it comes to the clock.

Add California too for that matter.

 

Why is that? I seem to do pretty good. There is more to van than Walmart or grocery stores. I do a lot of drop and hook at customers. Lots of bulk stuff that is plant to plant kind of stuff that gets unloaded pretty quickly. In and out and on down the road. I can pop off a 30 min break to satisfy Uncle and get back to it. Really good customers that usually let me take rest breaks right on their property. Over $80K net each of the last two years, home every weekend and holiday, by the house once or twice a week, usually about 3 weeks time off a year. All on a Elog that was put in my previous truck and got moved over to my present truck. No dedicated stuff, but I have put restrictions on where I will haul. I keep all my running generally within a 500-600 mile distance from the house in any direction. If I get held up at a customer, the clock works in my favor... at $50 an hour. Extremely rare it happens, but it has. Worse month for delays was a little over a year ago. I made $1500 for those delays. 2 different customers, 3 occurrences total. Got in a full 10 hr break at each situation.