BROKERLESS LOAD BOARD

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Bwalk3, Mar 6, 2017.

Flat fee based load board

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  3. Better idea ( post in thread)

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  1. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    I agree, there are couple of older brokers, when I see their loads, I call right away and pretty much always book those loads, because there is always a fair price. It seems like those guys know how much it costs to run a truck, keep a certain percentage for themselves and give the rest to the truck. Everybody is happy.
     
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  3. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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  4. boredsocial

    boredsocial Road Train Member

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    Oh come on buddy. You're being slightly disingenuous there. We'd start with lowball offers when we have time no matter what. We're in the business to make money. Just like how trucks often start the day asking for all the money in the world and slowly decrease through the day. It's just market mechanics.

    Yeah trucks fall out and it's annoying. That's just part of the business. Trucking companies have their own ######## to deal with... Namely having driven their truck a hundred miles and waiting 6 hours only to get given a 150 dollar TONU because the thing you were shipping failed QC.

    Some brokers DO make 20%. They aren't like you and me pushing as much volume as they can... They go out and find customers who don't know any better and charge them hilarious markups. I personally believe those people earn every penny they make. They do about 600% as much sales work per dollar in sales as I do. I'm laughing all the way to the bank with my 10-15% margins vs their 'good' 20+% margins.
     
  5. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    For how much were you offering this load initially, until you had to pay everything you had in it, because you were not able to find a truck ?
     
  6. boredsocial

    boredsocial Road Train Member

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    I'm at one of those older MC's now and I generally agree that they tend to have better freight. That being said there are plenty of older brokerages whose operations don't make sense with less than 20% margins. They are slowly being squeezed out of the business.

    The new kids are all running freight for a song. They'd probably remind you a lot of newer trucking companies screwing everything up for everybody running for 1.30 a mile lol.
     
  7. BrokerVeteran1

    BrokerVeteran1 Light Load Member

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    I posted it out for 4400. Matter fact it still maybe posted on truckstop. Not sure I deleted before I left
     
  8. DUNE-T

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    And then its a circle, you LOWball, trucker gets the load, finds a better one later on, cancels on you and next morning you start from the beginning with even lower offer.;)
     
  9. boredsocial

    boredsocial Road Train Member

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    Your game is kinda scary huh? Seems like you are committing to prices before you have trucks. I take a hell of a lot more than 8% when I do that. Gotta make up the losses when it goes sideways.
     
  10. BrokerVeteran1

    BrokerVeteran1 Light Load Member

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    Have a buddy at TQL that I play ball with quoted a customer van chino to Long Island NY to get his foot in the door with a new account quoted the customer 1.35 a mile.

    1.35 van from Chino to New York. She gave him loads for days. He struggled but always moves them 1.20 he says. Always finds someone that wants coast to coast business. Unreal. Not sure how those drivers survive.
     
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  11. BrokerVeteran1

    BrokerVeteran1 Light Load Member

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    It's an RFQ. 12 month rates. I focus on consistent business with rfqs.

    I enjoy spot also sometimes but some brokers drive price way to low.

    Come summer time that 4800 load I'll make more on it so it's not to bad. I have a lot of freight so some I try to get covered right away. Recently they hired me an assistant but it's been a headache
     
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