Log book vs. 100 mile radius rule

I was told to keep a time sheet in the truck to show dot, not at the office. And if I go over the 100 miles just fill it out for that day. I'm in western nebraska and regularly go about 130 give or take but since it's the same trip every day between 2 counties the dot doesn't make us fill out logs. They actually work with us pretty good. On the rare occasion I take a long load over night I just tell dot outside my normal area that I'm a temporay driver so I don't have anything other then that day in my book

 

So is it 100 or 150 miles???

 

100 air miles for a commercial vehicle requiring a cdl, 150 air miles for a commercial vehicle that does not require a cdl (typically trucks between 10,001 and 26,000 pounds gross weight rating).
The regulations to reference for this are:
49 CFR 395.1(e) This is the typical short haul exemption for most commercial drivers
49 CFR 395.1(2)(ii) This is the same as for cdl drivers except you get 150 air mile radius

Link to 49 CFR Part 395.1 eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations

 

This is one of the most misunderstood hours of service regulation exemptions by both drivers and roadside enforcement officers. You don't need to have anything with you to claim the short haul exemption, nor do you have to claim to be a temp driver either, here is the guidance from the FMCSA.
Question 13: What documentation must a driver claiming the 100-air-mile radius exemption (§395.1(e)) have in his/her possession?

Guidance:

None.
Question 21: When a driver fails to meet the provisions of the 100 air-mile radius exemption (section 395.1(e)), is the driver required to have copies of his/her records of duty status for the previous seven days? Must the driver prepare daily records of duty status for the next seven days?

Guidance:

The driver must only have in his/her possession a record of duty status for the day he/she does not qualify for the exemption. A driver must begin to prepare the record of duty status for the day immediately after he/she becomes aware that the terms of the exemption cannot be met The record of duty status must cover the entire day, even if the driver has to record retroactively changes in status that occurred between the time that the driver reported for duty and the time in which he/she no longer qualified for the 100 air-mile radius exemption. This is the only way to ensure that a driver does not claim the right to drive 10 hours after leaving his/her exempt status, in addition to the hours already driven under the 100 air-mile exemption.
Regulations Section

 

Great info, thank you!

On a somewhat related topic, have you seen or heard any updates lately about if/when electronic logs will be required in all commercial trucks? I've heard that might get tossed out by the Trump Administration, but was curious on the actual status of that potential change.

 

Yes, the Trump administration has chosen to not take a stance on electronic logging devices, and the legal challenge filed by OOIDA was denied by the Supreme Court so as I understand it there is nothing short of an act of Congress that can stop the hard enforcement of electronic logging devices on December 18th.

As it stands now all trucks operating in Interstate commerce will be required to install and use a compliant ELD on or before Dec. 18 of this year unless you meet the following criteria:

Already have a compliant AOBRD (deadline to upgrade is Dec 16, 2019)
Truck built prior to 2000 (FMCSA is using model year to determine, must be MY 1999 or older)
Currently required to complete a paper log 8 or fewer days in any 30 day period
Operate in driveaway/towaway operations where the vehicle being transported is the commodity, although some recreational vehicle transport operations ELD exempt even when using their own truck.

 

Thank you! Right after I posted that message to you, I decided to surf around the site and discovered a complete section devoted to the ELD subject at ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews and it looks like it has a ton of great info.

Needless to say, my company still has many questions about this as we don't yet have any ELDs in any of our trucks... but we also have more non-CDL required trucks than our CDL trucks and we need to do more research on the differences related to ELD. My boss is looking to see if we fall under any of the exemptions, but I don't think we do. More research will be required as time allows.

Thanks for your help!

 

I have a question? Do I need to keep track of the miles in the state that I cross into when I cross state to pay Road tax on that state

 

If I am within my Hundred air miles and I crossed a line do I have to keep track of those miles in the other state to pay Road tax

 

Yes.