Too heavy, for everything.

Yea, that looks like some more garbage research by whoever wrote that article.

I could see the fine being $125,000 total. No way are they going to give out a $60,000,000 ticket.

Could you image the uproar every time some poor guy accidentally threw a couple too many pallets on and got himself a half million dollar fine.

 

§ 31-25-16 Authorized weight shown in registration – Exceeding limit.

(a) The administrator of the division of motor vehicles shall insert in the registration card issued for a vehicle the gross weight for which it is registered. If it is a truck tractor to be used for propelling semi-trailers, he or she shall separately insert the total permissible gross weight of the truck tractor and semi-trailers to be propelled by it. It shall be unlawful for any carrier to operate or permit to be operated any vehicle or combination of vehicles of a gross weight in excess of that registered or permitted by the administrator of the division of motor vehicles, or in excess of the limitations set forth in this chapter.

(b) For the purposes of this section, "carrier" means and includes any company or person who furthers their commercial or private enterprise by use of the vehicle.

(c)(1) Penalties for violations of this section will be calculated on the registered or permitted weight in comparison to the actual weight and shall be heard and adjudicated at the traffic tribunal.

(2) The overweight penalties for vehicles with ten thousand pounds (10,000 lbs.) gross vehicle weight or less shall be eighty-five dollars ($85.00) per thousand pounds overweight or portion of it.

(3) The overweight penalties for vehicles exceeding ten thousand pounds (10,000 lbs.) gross vehicle weight shall be one hundred twenty-five dollars ($125.00) per thousand pounds overweight or portion of it.

(4) The overweight penalty for vehicles being operated in excess of one hundred four thousand, eight hundred pounds (104,800 lbs.) gross vehicle weight shall be one thousand twenty-five dollars ($1,025) in addition to the penalties enumerated in subsection (b)(2) of this section.

Source:
31-25-16

Section 3 days $125 per 1,000 lbs.

Section 4 adds another $1,025 for exceeding 104,800 gross.

480 × $125 = $60,000 + $1,025 = $61,025 fine for the weight alone. Not including any fines for over dimensions.

 

That driver and his company was hoing to haul that without paying for a permit.
Had they made it through, they would have cancelled the permit and not paid anything.
That company is complete trash and should be fined at least 500 grand.
Let the professionals do it, right?

 

I wonder where they came up with the 104,800 figure?

 

So now they are in the "pissing contest" phase of the negotiations.

Bay Crane is trying to use past precedent in their argument but I don't know how much water that will hold, seeing as how they tried to bootleg the load.

I've paid $4,000 per bridge for inspection before. A condition of the permit was to pay a private engineering firm, of which the state approved, to inspect and issue a report on every bridge. You don't realize how many bridges there are ( especially in TN) until you go trying to route a super load. There are a bunch.

 

From some knucklehead behind a desk.

 

Just out of curiosity, how do you go about quoting a price for stuff like that? Do you give a price that doesn't include the cost of permits, pilots, surveys, and any other such expenses? I can't imagine you give an all in price for something like that....

 

When I bid work (not that big) I give an all in price, just the same as when we bid a job in construction or anything else for that matter.

 

There is one that a heavy haul transformer at 100 plus tons will pause a while and check papers etc. Traffic flows around him. Maybe 30 minutes before he loads the bridge. Ive wondered about that sometimes. For me here in the south when nothing much goes on sometimes heavy haul can be pretty... special when there is a bridge or two between you and home being tested by a big boy.

 

Most of the time it's a all-in price.

I just quoted a 500k load last week. It's a short move and we've done the exact same move before. The only problem with this quote is the town the move is in requires a special permit and the guy at the town I've dealt with in the past has retired. The new guy doesn't have a clue and is dragging his feet. The job was quoted with a stipulation that the permit would be approved.

I won't name names but I know several big outfits will quote a hard number, just basing cost on past experience. This requires much less homework but is dangerous. Regulations change with everybody you have to deal with, personnel changes ( some officials will work with you and some against you), all can greatly affect cost.

Bay Crane should have gotten at least a letter of intent to approve permit and approved route from RI before they ever quoted the job. I'm guessing they didn't or they would have been throwing it in RI's face.

From a outsider looking in, Bay Crane rolled the dice on a risky proposition and lost. Then they doubled down trying to bootleg the load and lost big time.

As of late, I'm not real impressed with several of the heavy haul companies that most would consider leaders in the field. They look great on the outside but when you look behind the curtain, there is a lot of incompetence and shenanigans going on. I think what it boils down to is a sense of complacency and engineers running the show that have degrees a mile long but no practical experience.

Gone are the days when you can just pad somebody's pocket and make problems like these go away.