If your an outlaw now on loose leaf oilfield hos you can still be an outlaw on elogs........with some hacking skills or one of the services i forsee poping up pretty soon.
Gotta do what you gotta do to feed your family. The law might call you a cheater but your kids won't
The truth behind elogs.
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Liam123, Jul 16, 2017.
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Elogs are awesome,who wants to play with a coloring book every time they stop...except cheaters and liars.
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Maybe not the company driver but the 1 truck owners and little guys gotta compete somehow. What the op is truth. Its not a conspiracy theory when their is facts to prove it.
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Me, but I'm a grown ### man that is far from lazy, and I don't need my hand held which is what it is. I laugh at the clowns saying it's going to improve the industry and make the roads safer. Improvement would be changing the HOS to being more driver friendly. 30 accident free years and counting, and no elogs didn't do that.shogun, driverdriver, cnsper and 12 others Thank this. -
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Every time i hear something like this, I have to speak up and say that the reason for these archaic rules are for those who think the rules don't apply to them and they are special, when they are not.
Being a bad driver is being a bad driver and ELDs have been forced onto us because we are as an industry too lazy to get rid of the bad drivers and ensure most run professional so we have to live with it.
BUT that said, I can't get this problem I have, I am making money.
I am not seeing the drop off in revenue as predicted by some screaming about ELDs going to kill the industry. A good and smart fleet owner can leverage this into a positive, not a negative and build in their policies better ways to deal with the time.
Without the crap of paper, my drivers don't deal with the dispatcher saying "I figured you have time to get this load" and now tell them frankly no, no one wastes their time trying to convince them that they've got hours or any crap like that.
Is it a perfect system?
By no means but it is so much better than paper and so much more time can be captured.
So far I have had two drivers complain, and the level of honesty I get out of my drivers - it seems to be true that I have two complaining.
As for Mexico, we have them up here, dropping off at suppliers and picking up to go back down there, have been doing this for years, long before the Nafta program got attention. The only issue I see is that there is a bunch of lies about how much some of these guys make, the few I talked to didn't make 3 bucks an hour but pretty good money.Express12$, peterd, cnsper and 5 others Thank this. -
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elogs are for the government,so they can track your miles and show them your fuel mileage that way they can raise the heck out of taxes once they see guys getting 8-9 mpg instead of the old days of 5-6mpg.Just another way to screw small businesses cause the megas want elogs to level the playing field and put o/o's out of business.Op is right this has nothing to do with safety!
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I loved it when E-Logs came along, yea once in a while thy put me in a bind but I always knew I was getting my 10 off. Just like you said I just didn't see any big drop in pay from it, and in reality if these are going to break someone thy don't have an E-Log problem thy got an Hours Of Service problem.
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@Ridgeline , I truly hope Elogs will be a positive, for ALL of us.
You stated in your quote to me.. that Elogs are being brought about to get the bad drivers off the road, and ensure most run as a professional.
Isn't that what they said about CDL's too?
Of course it was, I remember it. I was driving with a chauffeur's license and making money, nothing fancy in the cab and still made money.
The promises about the CDL being the great savior never actually came about.
Remember the promise? To keep the best of the best on the roads to make it safer... basically was the promise, all I seen was men who shared their experiences with me go away, not because they were bad drivers but because the test intimidated them, mainly because they could barely write their name. They were professionals that could make a truck do anything, and put it anywhere safely.
But sadly they were punished in a sense do to lack of education, not because they weren't a professional driver.
I simply see history repeating itself.
But who am I, other than a "cheater & Liar"
as stated earlier by @Steel Dragon.
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