Hazmat placarding for 2 attached trailers

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  1. Three10

    Three10 Bobtail Member

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    I am transporting hazmat. The one trailer is 1.1 and the other is 1.4. Both are attached to the vehicle. Does the entire vehicle require 1.1 labels or does each compartment trailer) require its own hazmat placards. I can't find that specific regulartion. Can you give me a reference in the CFR?

    Thank you,
     
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  3. Hick

    Hick Heavy Load Member

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    What company is turning you loose with that load when you don't even know what placards you need??
     
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  4. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    what is in the trailer for that trailer needs to placarded on that trailer.
     
  5. Three10

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    I am in the military. It's an LMTV and a trailer. We are taking it on a highway to a training site. The truck compartment has 1.4S. The trailer compartment has 1.1D. Does the whole truck need 1.1D placards or does the trailer get 1.1D and 1.4S on the truck?

    I am certified in the US and Europe to drive it, I just can't figure out which one to do, because it isnt addressed in the CFR, at least I can't find it.
     
  6. Jazz1

    Jazz1 Road Train Member

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    Whole unit/ truck 1.1D
     
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  7. crb

    crb Road Train Member

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    Each trailer should be placarded separately.
     
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  8. x1Heavy

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    Each trailer separately 1.1 and 1.45

    Make sure you have the bills for both of them, that's basic.

    The guide that makes my answer is that whatever contents of a particular class or subclass has to match the placard on the outside of the vehicle etc.

    You can probably use a Explosives A on everything if that is what it is inside those trailers. That might be a older placard from my time.
     
  9. Three10

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    Ok, so seems the consensus is that each compartment (vehicle/trailer) gets its own placard. It's what I thought. I just can't find the reg.

    The refs talk about mixed cargo and when it is all the same cargo in a truck.

    I'd appreciate it if someone can give me the exact reg.
     
  10. x1Heavy

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    Here are the divisions of Explosives Since I do not know the exact cargo, I cannot go any further than what you already described as 1.1 and 1.4. The 1.1 is more dangerous of the two. 1.4 less so, particularly if it has a seperate protection or two protections against a problem.

    49 CFR 173.52 - Classification codes and compatibility groups of explosives.

    You are trying to describe a contents of a trailer. You have two trailers. Both contents have seperate behavior in a fire or other situation.

    Im not going to go any further here. If you still are having trouble, contact your safety within your company. Im pretty sure someone in your company has the authority necessary to confirm the placards. Because ultimately if there is going to be a problem with enforcement etc those things have to be correct on the rig.
     
  11. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I assume we're talking about a truck and trailer combo here?

    If so, each unit needs to be placarded separately. Explosives are governed by the compatibility table, according to which 1.4S and 1.1 cannot ride in the same unit.

    Further, transportation of class 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 materials requires a written route plan in the driver's possession.
     
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