i am new to this forum and would like to know the effects that the new eld requirements will have on bed buggers, since the drivers are paid by percentage vs by the mile? Will they ultimately net less money at the end of the year? do you think that many of the moving van drivers will find other career? thanks in advance for the insight.
ELD effects on bed buggers
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Mikec568, Aug 9, 2017.
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The only difference is driving time is automatically recorded. Every other input is up to the driver, so if you illegally logged sleeper or off duty to "save hours" when you should have been on line 4, you'll probably continue to do just that for the exact same reason. ELD's aren't going to do a darn thing to enforce anything other than the 14th hour after the truck's first movement and 11 hours of driving. The rest is only going to be as accurate as the person making the inputs...same as paper.
A lot of expense very little progress in compliance enforcement. Only thing they do is pressure drivers to race that clock because the 14 doesn't stop and the 11 is ticking away...so hammer down! Road construction? School zone? Can't be bothered by all that, 'cuz I gots to GO! Traffic backup? I'll hit it full speed ahead, because I just don't have time to stop. Seems to be the trend, anyway...closer the enforcement date gets and the more companies that adopt elogs, the more frequent these idiotic wrecks seem to be occurring. But hey, it was all in the name of safety, right? Unintended consequences are overlooked for the sake of the good intentions behind the policy.OLDSKOOLERnWV, austinmike, heyns57 and 4 others Thank this. -
thanks for the response. I have an opportunity to buy a small percentage of a small moving company that does local and long distance runs. I'm concerned that the new ELD will have a negative impact on the bottom line that the drivers currently make. I am also concerned about if a driver is an hour away from a stop or home because of an unknown occurance has to now stop due to the 14 hour rule, seems like it could be detrimental. Even if a driver already keeps accurate logs, in this situation prior to the new eld requirement what would typically happen here?
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You will likely rearrange work assignments by prioritizing your drivers who are subject to ELD requirements. A little strategy will go a long way to minimize the impact.
Example, you may have one driver sign onto the vehicle to move it to the residence and pack the shipment, therefore blowing up the 14 hours, and then let the driver who was intended to take it to destination report later and sign on when the unit comes back to the agency.
In the past it might have been one driver doing it all and fraudulently logging the events. You will figure it out. -
the way these drivers work is that they are paid a % of the whole move from A to Z. what you said makes good sense though. maybe there would be a way to split commission with another driver on the front end locally. however, there would be issues with this idea on the return trip though. sometimes they have 3 or 4 stops prior to getting a full load to head back to home state. I'm really concerned about the fact of delays causing a 10 hour break when the driver is 30-45 minutes away from home office or a customers house that is on a time crunch to move, etc. seems to me this could gouge the take home pay causing the company to raise prices to offset as well as pass off some customers. not sure how often this would happen, though. seems like it could happen alot.
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I worked for northAmerican Vanlines for 25 years, and currently haul trailers for Unigroup and am intimately familiar with how that end of business works.
Business as usual will change. The old days of the van operator dropping by the agency, picking up some labor, or meeting a packing van at the residence, loading and then proceeding to destination is nearly extinct now. The flagrant log violations that have been the norm in HHG are one of the reasons for ELD's. Your operations people will figure out alternatives, as will your HHG competitors. How well your people do it will determine whether you stay in business and you force your buddy under down the street. Same for delays at TL carriers. Good luck.bzinger Thanks this. -
Studebaker Hawk your input and experience is greatly appreciated. I just wonder if this is the reason why this opportunity has presented itself. According to the seller they will not be affected by ELD requirements at all, so now I am somewhat concerned and may just drop out of the deal.
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The seller is not being truthful with you at all. The ELD and it's effects are the biggest change in this industry since CDL's(1992) and deregulation itself(1982).
The entire HHG section of the business is a shell of it's former self when I started in 1976. Do it yourself, freight companies involved, PODS, and other factors have gutted the full service moving business. Proceed with caution.Mikec568 Thanks this. -
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