How to purchase permits for overweight loads

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  1. Hegemeister

    Hegemeister Road Train Member

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    Hey all.

    Currently hauling my first overweight load and found I don't have the needed info to order permits.
    Sometimes the shippers info is not accurate and the state needs the weight of each axle which needs to add up to the total gross weight.

    Now the only thing I can think of, is to go to the shipper, get loaded and estimate axle weights with my gauges. Then add some weight.

    This way seems like I might be sitting at the shipper waiting for permits to be issued.

    Another way is to overstate the weight in the state of the shipper, get that permit, get to a scale, then order the remaining state permits. Still can add up to delays.

    Anyone know of a better way to save time from sitting and waiting for permits to be issued? I know in some cases a state can take 24hrs + to issue.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    It will depend on what state you are in and how they charge for their permits and what kinda of weight you are hauling.

    Knowing how the state charges for permits - ton mile or flat rate for a weight range or flat rate - will help you make the decision on ordering in advance.

    Example: Az and Ca are flat rates ($75 & $16 respectively) - so if you order max weight it doesn't cost you more.

    NM is a ton mile state and it will cost you more for their permit but if you are hauling slightly overweight loads it may be the difference between $100 and $120 - for $20 What difference does it really make

    Generally you are not going to spend significantly more by padding your axle weights in the first state or two.

    You will also do well to pad your dimensions up to the break in requirements, so you don't order for 11' 1 come in at 11' 6" and have to reorder and pay again - when you order for 11'11" and be safe. Knowing that escorts or big route detours don't start until12' or 14' or whatever.
     
  4. Old Man

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    What state ?
    States will also want want axle spacing. 1 to 2, 2 to 3 etc.

    Some states require you have a max weight tag before they issue a overweight permit.
     
  5. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    Which is why you should always know when states start having additional requirements past certain limits (pilot cars, night restrictions, pole car requirements, holiday restrictions, curfews, etc) before you order the permits so you know when you can pad and not give yourself a major new expense or problematic restriction.
     
  6. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    NY,PA, MD and VA have 10 and 11 foot restrictions on I 81. Don't pad .
     
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  7. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    All very good advice above. Welcome to the oversize load world. Everything is different in every state.
     
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  8. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    Mostly it was an example but I will pad width to the next 11" mark because very rarely do you run into restriction that is X' X".

    Most of my permits are very expensive and re-ordering can be a pain, I will take all the cushion I can, if it not going to cost me escorts or large route detours.

    If you can get your shippers to measure correctly, more power to you.
     
  9. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    Shippers measuring correctly? Did you mean to post this in the joke section?
     
  10. Old Man

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    My last load the measurement was dead on, but there was no way to tie it down, so they made some lifting lugs to tie onto.
    Still didn't order until loaded to check height
     
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