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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by MrReactor, Sep 4, 2006.

  1. MrReactor

    MrReactor Light Load Member

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    Hi all, seeing if you could give me some imput on my situation. I am beggining to learn how to drive, I am not going to take a drivers course but will learn through a school on a daily basis, I do not want to sign any contracts stateing I will be there for the whole 160 hours, just want some schooling to learn how to pass the road test for my CDL. I've been offered a job to go Over the road Chicago-Florida @ $1500 a week. Is this belivable that someone would offer me a job right of the back no experiance needed making pretty good buck ?

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  3. pro1driver

    pro1driver Heavy Load Member

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    well i personally find that hard to believe. then to i gotta wonder if its ALL miles paid, or just loaded miles paid, meaning if you return empty, then you're getting paid zip, zilch, nada...........

    i then gotta wonder the validity of the person doing the hiring, sounds to me like an owner-operator, not a trucking company.

    i then goot wonder the fiscal shape of said owner-operator and if you'll be left stranded at some truckstop when his credit card is cancelled.

    good luck to you.
     
  4. MrReactor

    MrReactor Light Load Member

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    Owner operator with a client in Chicago/and somewhere in Florida always coming back loaded I don't know the full details but it sounds enticing. He has three other trucks running. I'm not to worried about the business just worried his insurance will reject me because of my age+lack of experiance
     
  5. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    At age 22, with no prior experience, and no certified schooling in your records, it is going to be really dicey to get any insurance company to cover you. That's one issue, and it's going to be a big one.

    Second issue, if this is what I think it is. He may well be hauling produce, and if so, there are some questions in my mind about this. The produce world has a long tradition of getting someone new, hiring them under somewhat unlikely conditions, and then giving them a very fast truck and an almost impossible schedule. And they work you until you have gotten enough tickets and burnt up your license, and then they find a new guy and start over.

    I don't know if this is the case, but there is a very good chance of it being that, or something remotely similar. Take a good long look at it, and then bring whatever details you can back here and get some opinions on what it looks like. If it ends up with you being on the road 6-9 montths and then losing your CDL, it's not a good deal.
     
  6. MrReactor

    MrReactor Light Load Member

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    Well
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    always the option of getting my CDL not doing anything CDL related for a year then going to a company and giving them false information
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    I was driving during the past year. I see it happen all the time where I work.
     
  7. pro1driver

    pro1driver Heavy Load Member

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    then i wouldn't want to work there as just about everyone lies about their experience (actually the lack of it) and are a danger on the roads.

    go ahead with your "master plan" of doing just that. i'll wave buh bye as i pass you while the silver bracelettes are fitted to your wrists.............
     
  8. MrReactor

    MrReactor Light Load Member

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    lol, master plan ? Just trying to make some money without being stuck in a dead end situation like the people that goto Swift and other crappy companies that use you for pennies.
     
  9. Newbie2be

    Newbie2be Bobtail Member

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    I'm not defending any company, but what are you expecting to get?? You don't want to go to school for the full training, you don't want to pay your dues, and you're expecting them to just toss you experienced driver pay?? And you'll lie to get on?:snorting::snorting::snorting:

    Are you insane?:smt065


    I hope I never share the road with you.
     
  10. pro1driver

    pro1driver Heavy Load Member

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    yes, true to a point (at times), that you will be used. however, the reality of it is that with some type of "certified" schooling, you'll make it easier for any insurance company to cover you. now, you say "use you for pennies", what do you think that great job offer you told us about will do to you......?????

    gotta think here, buddy, gotta think.

    you may not want to hear this but its all so true, pay your dues, for about 6 months to a year, and you can pretty much write your own ticket. its a fact we all know all too well.
     
  11. TurboTrucker

    TurboTrucker Road Train Member

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    Is it too good to be true? Probably. Hooking up in that kind of situation dictates that you ask yourself a question.

    Why would a $1,500 a week job be there so readily for a newbie with no experience, when there are so many experienced drivers out there that would jump on it in a heartbeat, if it is legitimate?

    Without making any presumptions, there may be some things you need to check out. Does this guy take taxes out of your check? It is the law that he do so. If he tells you that he considers you a "contractor", it's an illegal arrangement on HIS part.

    Do you get a feeling that he is financially sound, and that your pay will be there each and every week? Many small operations are suffering presently, because of severly reduced profit issues. Could the reason that the truck is in need of a driver be due to the fact that the last driver was not paid?

    Insurance companies are getting wise to this, and will perform checks of their own. Any company that would allow a driver to falsify an application, is not one that I personally would care to be associated with. Why? Because if they will skirt the law on something as serious as that, what other illegal activities are they into?

    I can certainly understand your desire to do this, but I'm not convinced that anyone who would hire a newbie and offer the brass ring in this manner is being completely straight up with you either.

    I would suspect that anyone offering $1,500 a week is going to expect a better than average performance out of the driver, for this better than average wage offering. This could very well mean that you will be expected to throw your middle finger up in the air to the hours-of-service rules and regulations, and for a newbie, that could mean anything from a collection of tickets for attempting to get away with this, all the way to you losing your life when you fall asleep at the wheel, and all in the course of trying to hang on to a job like that. Where will you be if THAT happens?

    No offense, but some things are just not worth it. I urge you to check out the fine print involved in all of this, and to consider it all very carefully before you jump in with both of your left feet.

    I wish you well.
     
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