Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Caesar

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    The blue Scania is certainly not a factory produced truck, the Iveco's are the Iveco Strator, and that is the only truck with a nose that is currently produced in Europe. However, the cab was developed for Australia, not for Europe. I can't remember ever seeing one.
     
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    This is not a bragging contest of who has the highest mountains or passes. The argument was made that EU trucks have difficulty getting up hills, and I explained that EU trucks have to climb the Alps, and the Alps are a bit higher then a few hills. By the way, in the 1960's there were far less tunnels in Europe, so the trucks had to drive up steep roads with hairpins, and passing through narrow village roads. The engines at the time were far less powerful than today, and yet they managed.
     
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    Your house. Pretty clean, roaches all over it. Sweep em or gas em. That was Pennsylvania in my land in the 80's
     
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    Drivers have a hard time getting volvo engines and their systems fixed in this country now , no one will work on them except Volvo dealerships .
    Many buy Volvo trucks with cummins engines and their systems to get service at more locations .
    You seem to think we're ignorant by not buying euro trucks , where would drivers get them fixed , they would have to wait days for any part .
    Then there's the fact that's there is no demand for cabovers , no owner operater wants them
    If fleets bought them they would have an even harder time recruiting drivers.
    Most of your arguments are just silly , we have what we want , what we need , and what our repair networks are accustom to working on
     
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    Our government in their infinite wisdom decided they wanted to regulate pollution control on American trucks , and they looked to euro trucks and said let's adopt their pollution systems , euro trucks have been using them for years .
    That was the biggest mistake I've ever seen in trucking , it's been a disaster , these systems have been constantly braking down .
    We should have waited , developed new systems that are dependable and work here , instead of adopting your tech .
    No wonder no one with a brain wants to adopt more of your tech
     
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    Yes, when they overheat. And they don't overheat as fast as with drum brakes. The full surface of the pads is always in contact with the disk, and with a drum brake a small part of the shoe will be in contact with the drum, causing glazing even faster. Furthermore the material of the pads is improving, and I would not be surprised if ceramic disks will be used on trucks in the future.
     
  8. daf105paccar

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    That is not quite accurate.
    The USA did do it's own thing in regards to pollution.
    That is why you have the pre 2010 EGR with DPF engines.
    The choice to go that route was done under lobbying from enginemakers and powerfull players in trucking.
    The idea behind it was that oil and thus diesel was cheap.
    That route killed Caterpillar and let to a lot off badly working engines.
     
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    I heard interviews with officials from government and the truck manufacturers , they assured us they knew what they were doing and the systems europe was using would work .
    You can spin it anyway you want , it's been a disaster , we should have waited , and started from scratch
     
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    You seem to forget that all of your engines are basically European engines, with the exception of Cummins. So all development in that area is done in Europe.....
    Why is that? Simple, you whole automotive industry stopped making any kind of progress years ago, because the consumers (incl. the truckers) only wanted to buy their familiar old fashioned stuff. What is the ideal truck for a NA trucker? It should look like it came of the production line 50 years ago, it should have a pre-emission engine, two loud smoke belching chrome exhaust pipes, a dashboard full of useless gauges, and a big stick to stir in the unsynchronized gearbox. It makes him feel like a real macho man, who is taming a wild beast of a truck. It's all make believe, but who cares.

    Now try getting those truckers interested in clean, quiet streamlined modern trucks, that's pointless. So the truck manufacturers did not invest in modern technology.
     
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    that's our loss , caterpillar would have developed a system that worked if our stupid liberal government at the time didn't push us into your tech .
    And cummins is the best option we have at this point , the used truck market shows that with premium prices .
    You seem proud of the fact that your euro systems don't work worth a crap.
    I'll stick with my de-egr-ed cummins as long as I can or until some dependable option exsists
     
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