Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    Who is "we" please? Who should have started from scratch? Who is designing those engines and their exhaust gas treatment systems?
     
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  3. Caesar

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    Does that mean that the European style of exhaust gas treatment is causing less problems?
    Now I also understand the increase in fuel consumption argument, cleaner European engines use less fuel instead of more fuel as with US engines.
     
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    And yet again. It isn't necessary because a good driver never over heats his brakes.
     
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    Do I have to define "WE"
    You're just trying to derail the point
    My posts are clear to anyone who is intellectually honest
     
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  6. Caesar

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    The point I'm trying to make is that there was no "we" any more at the time this had to be done.
     
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    Im glad you have no control over anything but your posts here , it's that type of logic that has gotten us where we are .
    Doing something that doesn't work because it "had to be done " sounds like something a unelected government official would say .
     
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  8. Caesar

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    You still don't get it. At the time your government decided that truck engines had to be cleaner, there were almost no US engine developing manufacturers left, so there was no "we" who could have made those systems.
     
  9. Bean Jr.

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    This is what is so frustrating about you. You have previously maligned NA as being too much "handmade", now you turn around and suggest that European manufacturers handmade a truck just for our market.

    Just to reiterate. There is globalization in the truck market. PACCAR owns DAF and Leyland. Daimler owns Freightliner and Western Star and Volvo owns Mack. If the powers that be felt that importing European trucks to the North American market was a good idea, they would be doing it now. Instead they are just sharing technology and components. As another driver pointed out, owner/operators don't really like Volvo power. Not because they aren't good enough engines, rather you must take them to Volvo dealers to get repaired. That's why Volvo pulled the D16. The owners who would have bought them chose Cummins instead. The fleets that bought Volvo engines, bought the d13 for mileage.

    Once again, the structure is in place to bring your trucks here already, but those very manufacturers know that it is better to market a truck that is designed for here rather than make significant changes to trucks in order to make them palatable here. You understand our trucks don't work there, why do you still fail to accept your trucks don't work here?
     
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  10. W9onTime

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    You just try to change facts to support your lame arguments , when this started we still had CAT and we still have cummins , but why limit to our truck manufacturers , outside engineers could develop pollution control systems or new engines systems that actually work .
     
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  11. mhyn

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    I have a BMW parked in my back yard. Useless car. Both it 1.5 ago and drove it only 4 mounts. It's a BMW 325 SULEV car made in Germany odometer shows 113.000 m. The fuel tank is made of metal and the pump is inside. The pump is broken and no way to change it(the fuel pump is a one stamped piece ). The whole fuel tank must be changed and it is expensive. $4500 at dealer. Junkyards have it at $1200(used and probably won't last long). I have another car too. Cheap Toyota 2003 year model car and it's a workhorse. Change the oil, put gas in the tank and drive it. It has 198.000 miles and never broke down. What I want to say it can be cheap and reliable/money maker. And could be fancy/expensive/feature loaded junk that will be broken at every second trip.
     
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