Overtime pay ! Make it happen .

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by howlinhauler, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    That is something I want no parts of. I can’t deal with dragging some human boat anchor around all day.
     
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  3. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    Its funny the small guys like me were always the best workers it seemed. 140lbs soaking wet and taking 300+ down the ramp all day
     
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  4. Dick Danger

    Dick Danger Medium Load Member

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    Apparently all y'all haven't heard....money isn't everything....
     
  5. boredsocial

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    I'm more or less convinced that pay-for-time is evil and should be done away with. I'm being serious too.

    For a sizeable % of the population (myself included!) hourly jobs absolutely destroy any motivation to work hard and be productive. Why would you? Why do you? And today the vast majority of workers are on hourly or salary pay structures that provide very little incentive to work hard beyond an 'atta boy!' or a 4% raise instead of a 2% raise at the end of the year.

    Thanks to productivity pay I routinely get 25-50% raises because I did more work. Full stop. I also can take less money and do less work if that's what suits me (it doesn't). There's a reason why employers want you to work on hourly. It's cheaper for them, and they don't really care that it results in a sizable amount of time being wasted for their employees. The hourly/salary pay system basically makes the great employees subsidize the crappy employees. It's super screwed up and leads to lots of people doing jobs that aren't really for them.
     
  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    I am firmly convinced piece work pay is evil. Except for the most simple jobs or maybe some sales jobs, piece work pay relieves the management from all responsibilities. It allows and even rewards piss-poor management and efficiencies to prosper.

    That is the exact situation we see in trucking. All the issues we discuss here daily would change with hourly/overtime pay; turnover, safety, detention, low pay, substandard rates, HOS, training schools, loading & unloading, home-time, poor management, and maintenance. All these issues are the direct result of the fact management can pass the time cost onto the driver with no responsibility or cost to them.
     
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  7. boredsocial

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    I suspect the 20% who do 80% of the work at your company disagree strongly with your entire post. You're arguing that you should be paid as much as you feel is fair no matter what despite the fact that the difference between a good driver and a bad one is going to be huge.

    I'm not sure how management quality or efficiency are impacted by pay-per-piece work. If anything it should lead to workers who are more productive, better paid, and more engaged. People should be happy to have a busy day at work.

    Trust me, if you get paid hourly it's benefiting the owner of the company. They are selling by the piece and paying by the hour for a reason. One piece probably pays pretty good and they don't want to share.

    I think the perfect way to pay truck drivers is a % of truck revenue. Tell me why I'm wrong?
     
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  8. Cali kid

    Cali kid Road Train Member

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    Yeah let me know when you find piece work that pays over 40hr while stuck in bumper to bumper traffic in Los Angeles traffic on a friday. For those that work in the sticks piece work may be fine, but for those of us in a major city it doesn't make any sense.
     
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  9. boredsocial

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    What % of truck revenue are you earning now? Nobody is suggesting local guys get paid by the mile.
     
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  10. Cali kid

    Cali kid Road Train Member

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    I'm paid by the hour with O.T. not %
     
  11. boredsocial

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    Ok estimate how much your company gets for your truck being occupied all week. Divide what you make on average by that number and tell us what you get.
     
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