Why are 53 ft van trailers the first type of driving job

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by ad356, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    seems to me like scaling a tanker is pretty easy. tandems do not adjust and you really cant overload it, you will spill it. you dont have to worry about how its loaded because fluid is just that fluid, its going to have its own level...... dont have to worry about heavier product in the front then in the back.

    i was not aware that it was purposely used as a flushing system for drivers. kind of glad i abandoned doing it. funny thing is i had a GUT instinct that the training was poor at best and i was no where near ready for driving into heavy metro areas by myself. the trainer really sucked. i went to dump truck because that's what i felt i was ready for and when the work dried up (seasonal) i went to milk tanker. i got some practice handling weight and shifting a large tandem dump truck. now i work for a milk hauling outfit that actually cares about their trucks, drivers, and fleet..... he cant really afford for drivers to leave. i am getting trained by a former werner trainer (he has 15 years of driving) and the owner himself (a 40 year veteran of the industry). im about a week in and actually feel like im learning.

    i had no idea that dry van was seasonal, but i guess the freight does dry up after christmas significantly. im glad i left werner and the corrupt system of flushing out drivers. i am accident free, a yesterday was the anniversary of passing my road test. i want to keep a clean record, its of absolute importance, in the local job economy i dont know what else i would do that can support my family.
     
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  3. frank_the_tank

    frank_the_tank Light Load Member

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    ive never pulled a van trailer, been driving for about 5 years or so now. pulled a flat in school, went to a flatbed company out of school and have been running a dump trailer locally for the last couple years. ironically a "dry van mega" wouldn't hire me out of school because my school didn't meet their "standards." boy did they ever do me a favor!!
     
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  4. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    I was gona say something like that. The reason most starter jobs are dryvan is because most jobs are dryvan. But there's ways for folks to start in tanker, reefer and flatbed if they want. One guy in my CDL class of about 20 guys went straight to tanker with Schneider. We had flatbed recruiters come to school giving presentations too. One guy signed up for flatbed work right there in front of us, before he even took his test. And my first job was reefer.
     
  5. randomname

    randomname Light Load Member

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    Ad356, setting tanker weight isn't cut and dried like that. Most liquids you can't load to the top, for both weight and expansion reasons.
    And once you have a particular tractor and trailer setup right, you will know what your axle weights will be when loaded, but it can get complicated before then. I worked for a place that used a few different tractors on 2 different trailers, hauling 2 different liquids, and we mainly loaded at a shipper that was not quite on level ground. It was like a lottery with the axle weights,lol.
    But, I see your point.
     
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  6. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    I'm hauling fluid raw milk. The trucks have overweight permits, the farms generally are not filling both compartments to the top anyways. Spring flush will be a different story. I believe the overweight permits cover the maximum volume the truck can carry. I formerly worked as a milk receiver and it was commonplace for them to be filled to the max.

    It's also noteworthy that my route doesn't normally take me over a scale. It's almost all rural driving, which I do enjoy. Unless the dot sets up a portable scale somewhere along the route I won't even get scaled. I do know that sometimes this can happen, but it's rare.

    Weight calculation is done by stick readings at the farmers tanks. Measure the height of the product and use a chart.

    Milk hauling is a different kind of trucking, but so far I like it. Leave out on a trucking adventure in the morning, get back in my own car at the end of day. What could be better?
     
  7. mnmover

    mnmover Road Train Member

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    Dry vans are not seasonal. There is always freight available, it may be busier in late fall, but vans always run. Reefer freight has busy times also during produce season. When produce is slow, rates decrease, always meat to move etc.
     
  8. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Seasonal pattern taking hold in spot market dry van, reefer
    Dry Van Peak Seasons and Rates
    https://www.freightcowboy.com/truckload-market-pricing-and-how-it-directly-affects-your-bottom-line/
    Swift Transportation - Dry Van
    The great Satan of dry van themselves must be mistaken by advertising seasonal dry van capacity.
     
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  9. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    i know one thing, milk is not seasonal...... well even milk has additional volume in the spring, its called spring flush..... when the farmers put the cows out to graze.
     
  10. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    Well yeah we would love to have shorter trailers it would just may it some much easier to park at the truck stops however industry requirements demand the need for 53' trailers and once your on the open freeways there really not that hard to maneuver.
     
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