Well don't get me wrong, I'm neither for or against the mandate. I don't believe you smaller companies or single truck operations that have a verified safety record for being safe should be required to have them. I think the issue sits in the law itself.
To clarify, I run on them yes, I love them, yes, I have a big enough target on me with hauling oversize loads that I don't need the added scrutiny on my logs.
I think ELDs are Unconstitutional
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Thane, Dec 7, 2017.
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If you like them, fine, I'm okay with that. I can police myself, however, and know when to quit when I'm tired and, with the old HOS, I liked being able to have the flexibility to drive as I see fit, not as you or any other person thinks I should. One size does not fit all in this instance. -
No matter what the HOS are there will be times I would want to break the rules.
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I've had several instances where ive just hit a wall where I got incredibly tired, and I stopped and took an hour long nap. If your operation has you constantly running into your 14hour buffer, then maybe you should look into changing the way you operate. If that isn't going to work because it's the shipper or reciever that's slowing you down, then look onto them about delaying you.driverdriver and DoubleO7 Thank this. -
I don't really care to haul OD anymore, at least nothing over about 10' wide. However, I am maybe looking at getting another open-deck trailer and getting away from the reefer biz. The clock doesn't hit you as hard when you are at the mercy of a shipper that will leave you locked to the dock for 7 hours and then tell you you have to leave the property, but your clock has run out.
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I would be cool with at least SOME flexibility. I respect an argument on desired changes to the HOS rules. Argueing against ELD's is irrational at this point. They are a done deal. -
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I hope this mandate forces demands for sensible HOS changes. Chief of which is allowing the 10 hour break to be any combination of Off Duty and/or Sleeper breaks that exceed 2 hours. This would help greatly. Example it would work the same as the 8/2 split except, an 2-4-4 or 2-3-5 or 5-5 split would accomplish the same thing. It adds a lot of "flexibility" that many complain they don't have under the current rules.
Also, doing away with the 70/8 and 60/7 rules or allowing these to be a "carrier enforced option" would be very helpful without causing fatigued driving. This in fact would also show other safety benefits, as well.
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