Im primarily within the 100 mile radius for most of the year except for maybe 30 days when I help a friend during a seasonal contract. I do travel 5 states but they are as if I'm running local. Is there a legal way around this or do I have to comply with it. And does that make my whole year subject to the new rules?
How do get around an ELB
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Loaderlou, Dec 10, 2017.
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Once you hit the 9th day in 30 requiring a log, you must have an ELD. Once you are back inside the 8 days in 30, you can unplug it again.
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If you are home within 6 days you are exempt. I read this on a fmcsa page. Or just drive an old truck.
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My truck is an 01. I am going to operate under the 100 air mile radius exemption as well. You need to go on and off duty in the same location every day. Use the 8/30 exemption for longer distances but those you need to log on paper. Other wise just fill out one of these.
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I know an O/O that is currently going through this BS with an '01 Freightliner. He said, it's not so much the truck, it's the motor. If it has an ECM, you need an ELD. Is that true?
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If you can not run with a eld you have been fudging the numbers and hurting yourself. There should be no difference in the hours of service between the two so in the time we are forced to play the regulators game we should be putting a surcharge on all freight to cover the costs of doing business the way the regulators demand.
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I am not fudging anything. I legally am not required to have one. I don't run outside of 100 miles from my home terminal anymore than 2 to 3 times a month tops. Sorry but I am not going to spend the money to buy one and the monthly subscription if i don't have to.
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Never mind the ELD. Im worried that at someone getting a bright idea to ban trucks after a certain model year as being non compliant...
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Those who run Texas and STAY within Texas, but return to their starting points, can run Texas intrastate rules. I'm not 100% sure of the "return to their starting points" part of it. Texas rules may not have that restriction.
GENERAL RULE - All Carriers - Intrastate In Texas (37 TAC 4.12) 12 Hour Rule (37 TAC 4.12(a)(2)) Drivers are allowed to drive for 12 hours following 8 consecutive hours off duty. 15 Hour Rule (37 TAC 4.12(a)(2)) A motor carrier cannot permit or require a driver to drive after 15 hours are spent on duty following 8 consecutive hours off-duty. NOTE: Drivers in intrastate commerce violating the 12 or 15 hour limits shall be placed out-ofservice for eight consecutive hours. • • • • • • • 70 Hour Rule (37 TAC 4.12(b)(2)) A motor carrier must not permit or require a driver to drive after having been on duty 70 total duty hours in seven days A driver may restart a 7 consecutive day period after taking 34 or more consecutive hours off-dutyLast edited: Dec 10, 2017
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