Weird drive axle weight situation

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jdm5jdm5, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Well, I would be curious to see how all the various GROSS weights looked like. Cat will only "guarantee" on the gross stated weight against a gross weight tickets. They are pretty much useless against axle weight tickets.

    I have a feeling if we could see all the printed axle weights from the Cat scales and maybe the state scales, things would start to make more sense, rather than just being privy to the drives weights
     
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  3. Jdm5jdm5

    Jdm5jdm5 Light Load Member

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    in California it was steers 12540 drives 34100 trailer 27420 total 74060.....in Oklahoma it was steers 12460 drives 33360 trailer 27780 total 73600.....in Arkansas after fueling up it was steers 12620 drives 33960 trailer 27580 total 74160
     
  4. sealevel

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    You said 35,100 in your original post? Idk. I can promise you it's not your fifth wheel. If it is, the tickets are the least of your concerns.
     
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  5. not4hire

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    Were you setting your brakes on the CAT scales and not on the DOT scales?
     
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  6. Raezzor

    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    Holy cow son, slide those trailer tandems up. There's no reason for you to be that close to 34k on the drives with a 74k gross. I'd also knock the 5th wheel back a hole or two just to be a bit safe, but if that 12.5k was on full tanks it's not that big of a deal. I usually kept my steers at or below 12k as I just felt safer from unwanted attention that way. But man, if you had put your trailer tandem forward further you'd never have had this problem anyway.

    BUT, since you do have this problem, CAT should stand by their tickets. Since being overweight isn't an inspection item I'm assuming you got a ticket. Inform CAT and they'll pay for your defense since all their scales are certified.
     
  7. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    ^^^^^^
    Did you set the trailer brakes specifically? Some trailers will air down the suspensions when you kill the air supply. This too can jack the weights around.
     
  8. Jdm5jdm5

    Jdm5jdm5 Light Load Member

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    Yes, it was 35100 at the weigh station where they wrote me up but all 3 CAT scales said my weight was good

    yes, I set my brakes at the CAT scale and did not at the weigh station. Are they ok with you setting your brakes at a weigh station?

    I set the brakes at the CAT scale but did not set them at the weigh station. Are they ok with you setting your brakes at a weigh station? Here are the axle weights at the 3 CAT scales I went to.........
    in California it was steers 12540 drives 34100 trailer 27420 total 74060.....in Oklahoma it was steers 12460 drives 33360 trailer 27780 total 73600.....in Arkansas after fueling up it was steers 12620 drives 33960 trailer 27580 total 74160
     
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  9. Slowpoke KW

    Slowpoke KW Road Train Member

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    There's your trouble
     
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  10. ZVar

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    Just the opposite. Do NOT set your brakes on the CAT scale. What is happening is when you set your brakes, the air bags in the trailer are deflating causing the trailer to be lower on the rear, thus transferring weight to the back.
    Heck, the sign even says to release the brakes.
     
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  11. Jdm5jdm5

    Jdm5jdm5 Light Load Member

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    I will do this from now on. Now that I think of it, I was pressing the brake pedal while on the scale at the weigh station. I didn't think pressing the brake pedal while on the scale would cause a major difference, but do you think pressing the brake pedal could cause the drives weight to go up 1100 pounds?
     
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