ELD, the best thing to happen to the industry since the 3406B

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by AZ Pete, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    Thats right. The 3406B changed everything. After it came, everyone wanted more power than the CAT. This is why Detroit had 430 hp. This is why 425 hp was used as a benchmark for 20 years.
    Now we have something else changing everything. The ELD. Give it a little time and everything is going to change. 10 years from now and you aren't going to recognize how this industry operates. It will be so much more efficient you won't believe what you see.
    NOW everyone is going to stop piling on the driver. Blaming them for everything, and looking at them as free labor. 6 hours at the dock of a shipper or receiver will stop. Lying dispatchers that tell you you have a 3:00 A.M. appt when your appt isn't till 11:00. Pushing you to "fudge" things to try to get to that shipper or receiver before they close so you can get loaded and run all night to get unloaded first thing in the morning 600 miles away, after driving all day to get there in the first place. Done. No more.
    Shippers that tell you to be there at 3:00 A.M. only to not be done loading you till 3:00 P.M. and then you have to run all night to get unloaded at 3:00 A.M. DONE. NO. NO MORE.
    Shippers, Receivers, Carriers, Brokers. All of them will have to be more efficient and competent in the way they conduct themselves.
    The whatabouters that are having a hard time adapting be ######. IMO, they can adapt or they can hit the road Jack. They are only legendary in their own mind anyway. Honestly, those guys are not the "good drivers in the industry" they think they are. They were a large part of the problem. They are the ones breaking as many rules as they needed to, "to get the job done" and they are the ones who allowed these shippers, receivers, carriers, to get away with their subpar practices for so long. THEY were the thorn in the side of this industry.
    Good riddance to all that nonsense. NOW is a good time to be a trucker.
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    As long as "honest eloggers" log on duty time on line 1 or 2, nothing is going to change...except for the mad race against the 14 hour clock running breakneck speeds through town to "make up" for lost time elsewhere. You still have guys driving long past their 70 (because they "saved" their clock by logging lines 1 or 2 whenever possible). You'll still have people working 16-18 hours per day (because they arrived at the shipper/receiver last night, and crept ever so slowly to the dock in order to not trigger the start of their "official" elogged day before they were actually loaded or unloaded). You'll still have shippers and receivers dragging their feet, because that's the way they've always done it and if you won't pull their freight there are plenty of others who will (and probably for less). The medium to large carriers won't become any more efficient...they'll just hire more drivers and start putting teams in them if they don't feel like buying more trucks. Can't make the appointment? Drop the load and we'll repower it. We'll let you know in a day or two where we'll send you next...so hang tight.

    Keep dreaming those pipe dreams of yours, though. People like you always figure this next change will revolutionize the industry for the better...but it never happens. Sure, things change...but not really. Company still wants to provide decent service for cheap to the customer, because there will always be someone willing to do it for less. Shippers and receivers know this. Brokers know this. Only people who don't seem to know this are the ones like you who think THIS is going to be that magic bullet that all of the other big changes were also supposed to be (but weren't).
     
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  4. Timin770

    Timin770 Road Train Member

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    I work part time for my former employer. I hop in a truck when a driver is sick, vacation, etc.

    I notice all the speed governors have been pushed up faster

    Great plan Big Gov
     
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  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Just making the necessary adjustments to ensure the drivers still have the flexibility to get the job done. 5-10 mph below the speed limit meant sometimes fudging by 20-30 minutes...so now you can drive the speed limit to make it back on time. Problem solved.
     
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  6. AZ Pete

    AZ Pete Medium Load Member

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    Because people like you will always try to find an angle, and wind up outsmarting themselves.
    But, I think, once enforcement gets their #### figured out, all the bad apples will fall to the wayside. As more and more figure out how to make it work, those trying to figure an angle will start to stick out like a sore thumb.
    Times, they are a changing, and for the better.
     
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  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    I don't need an "angle". I'm home every night and don't venture out farther than I can make it back...and BECAUSE I'm home every night, I get the 16 hour exception to play with once per week. Most of my days are more like 8-10 hours, though. I haven't come close to working 70 hours in several years...typical week for me is only 40-45...50 if it's a busy week, counting everything from the time my truck rolls out of my driveway in the morning until I park it and walk back into the house. In other words, I'm typically going to be exempt...and even if I reach a temporary point where I'm not "technically" exempt, good luck proving that on the side of the road. Just as I've never shown a log book inside of the 100 air-mile radius, I don't plan on showing my ELD outside of it. A time card showing my previous 7's hours plus the current day's log book page and tell the officer I'm exempt. Nothing he can do but take me for my word. I don't carry any paperwork I don't need that day. Yesterday's paperwork is left at the house. Even if I had a log book with my previous 7, you might find 1 or 2 days plus the current day where I logged anything other than straight line 4 (record of hours worked, NOT a record of duty status). "It was a busy week...I don't usually venture out this far, but the money was there". They can't prove I don't qualify, and you're innocent until proven guilty.

    And if it becomes a problem? No big deal. It would take all of 2 minutes to change my operation so that I'm never more than 45 minutes to an hour from home.

    Yes, times are a-changing, but not for the better. Your pay won't be going up. You won't be driving more miles. Companies are growing their fleets to handle steady freight volumes...meaning LESS freight for each driver to haul. Sure, you might see a nickle per mile more...but what good does that do you if your mileage drops by more than that pay increase can cover? Congrats. Sit there at a truckstop somewhere in BFE waiting for your next load while your family tries to make it on those smaller paychecks. I'll be living comfortably at home with my wife and kid.
     
  8. CrappieJunkie

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  10. DSK333

    DSK333 Road Train Member

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    ELDs can easily be cheated. Those who think otherwise are delusional.
     
  11. Timin770

    Timin770 Road Train Member

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    Our drivers have never gone 5-10 mph below. Always speed limit or better

    The drivers from that fleet were passing me on I65 last night at 75-80 MPH.

    BTW I got called into duty Friday. I worked all day at my regular job, then hopped in a truck for my old boss and drove straight to Chicago. I took a 2-hour nap on I65 in Kentucky.

    Chicago loaded me in about an hour. I drove straight back to Atlanta with a 2-hour nap near Nashville. Rain and fog most of the way.

    Don't try this at home lol
     
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