34 Hour Restart

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. pizzaguytim

    pizzaguytim Bobtail Member

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    Yes it does, however unless I'm mistaken you wrote exactly what I did, just in a different way. I can drive for 11 hours per 24 hour time period, and do other stuff for 3 more hours. I'm just not allowed to go over 14 hours of truck related responsibility's in a 24 hour time period (truck related responsibility's meaning no more driving after 11 hours). and I am not allowed to work more than 70 hours in 8 consecutive 24 hour time periods. Maybe I'm not being clear but I truly think I got it. I like this forum and will bee looking to y'all for further advice and insight to my future adventures. Thanks for being patience with me.:biggrin_25519:
     
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  3. bangngears

    bangngears Medium Load Member

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    you dont have to do other stuff. you have a 14 hour maximum but if you only use 13 thats fine as long as you take a full 10 hour break between driving shifts.......in a nut shell forgetting everything else, by law you can drive a total of 14 hours in a 24 hour day, coming off a 10 hour break 11 on 10 off You will go to a trucking company as a newbie and they will teach you logs it is not that hard once you get the hang of it. This forum has alot about logs look up logsrus and read the threads there is alot of info there.
     
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  4. miakica

    miakica Light Load Member

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    # 1 WRONG 11/14 has nothing to do with a calendar day. If you start driving at midnight, and drive straight, you stop at 11AM. Have your 10 in sleeper, and you can start driving again at 9PM, so you will have 14 hrs driving in that day and still be legal. Again, 11/14 rule has nothing to do with a calendar day
    # 4 WRONG After you hit your 11 driving, you can work as long as you want, as ling as you are not driving, and after you finish working(line 4), you must have 10 consecutive hours off duty or sleeper. So, if you finish your 11 driving at noon, and then work(line 4) until 10PM, you cant start driving until you had 10 off, so 8AM

    Only way that you can be in violation of 11/14/70 rule is DRIVING
     
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  5. miakica

    miakica Light Load Member

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    Take a look at my previous post
     
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  6. pizzaguytim

    pizzaguytim Bobtail Member

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    OK so that was very helpful, thank you so much for dumbing it down for me, that is what I needed. I guess the only place that I went wrong is stating "in a 24 hour time period" I can only drive for 10 or 14 hours as long as I have 10 hours off duty before and after driving 10 or 14 hours. and again no more than 70 hours in 8 days. hows that??
     
  7. miakica

    miakica Light Load Member

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    I'll try to explain this, it's cutting into my beauty sleep...
    OK, you cant drive 14 hrs. You can drive 11 hrs in a 14 hr period. Let's say that you started at midnight. MVI took .25 hrs, you drove till 5AM, parked at the dock, and waited till 10AM to get unloaded. Started driving again at 10AM you HAVE to stop driving at 2PM even though you have less than 9 hrs driving(14 hrs since you started the MVI at midnight). After 2PM you can continue to work on the truck, or unload, or whatever you want to do, as long as you are NOT driving. Lets say you worked till 5PM. Before you can start to drive again, you MUST HAVE 10 hrs of sleeper or off duty, therefore can start driving at 3AM
     
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  8. DBL_TIME

    DBL_TIME <strong>"Two Mints in One"</strong>

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    Once you come on duty doing what ever your clock is started, you have 14hrs to complete 11hrs of driving. Wether you complete 11hrs of driving or not is irrelevant. What ever driving hours you have accumulated in that 14hr period is just what you got as long as it was not over 11. Now when ever you decide to come off duty after 10 consecutive hrs of off duty/sleeper berth you can come back on duty and repeat as long as your 70 alows. If you come on duty in your log book and didn't drive any but worked 12hrs that 12hrs would still count off your available or remaining 70. The 70hrs don't mean you have 70hrs to drive, every thing that you log as either driving or on duty not driving counts against your 70.
     
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  9. DBL_TIME

    DBL_TIME <strong>"Two Mints in One"</strong>

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    I am not poking fun, but I am glad you are not asking about split logging.
     
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  10. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    Where in the 11 & 14 hour rules I posted for you on page 13 did it mention a "day", or as you stated in a different post to wit: "....24-hour time...".? Get that "day" crap out of your mind for the 11 & 14 hour rules!!!!! You'd better read the posts again and again until you get that "DAY" crap out of your head when referring to the 11 & 14 hour rules or you will NEVER understand it and your posts will be incorrect such as the one above. If you went to a truck driving school they either taught you improperly in which case they ripped you off probably because the school didn't know what they were doing, or, and not being offensive, you were asleep when the school taught the Hours of Service rules in part 395 because it's not that hard when you get past that "day" S#$t. Only then will you understand how simple the rule is and you will understand what other people here have been attempting to show you, and understand people like LogsRus, DBLTIME, others here that have been attempting to show you, and me, a retired federal DOT officer.

    You can legally drive for 11, rest 10, drive 11, rest 10 etc., and keep in that cycle until you hit the 70-hour wall if you wish to make any money in this business.

    Under your above scenario you are wrong again on items 1, 2, 3, and 4 because of that word you should forget, and sometimes, once you understand the rule and get that "day" word out of your head when referring to the 11 & 14 hour rules, will be in a rest mode more than 10-hours during some time periods assuming the rest mode carried over from the previous calendar day (but here I'm talking about rest, not driving so in this instance "day" takes on a different meaning and has nothing to do with the 11 & 14 hour rules). But I'm not going to address item 2 yet because that would confuse you even more. Just go back and read the rule I posted for you on page 13 again and again until you forget that word..

    I'm not even going to show you things like pre & post trips, unloading & loading here because that will confuse you even more.
     
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  11. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    See my above post and get that "day" crap of your mind and you'll see why this post is different than the one quoted in this/your above post are different and you're not saying the same thing in different ways and you are in fact mistaken because of that word you should erase from you mind when attempting to learn these simple rules.
     
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