Coal.
You provide power unit and driver, fuel, bobtail ins.
Company provides other ins and the double belly dumps.
double belly dumps 129,000 lbs gvw
520mi 260 mi loaded 260 mi empty
two port of entrys
90 % interstate 90 % flat land
1/2 hr to load 15 min to dump
6 days a week,10-11 hr days
sundays off if wanted
Please give a per load charge
Sorry Yes there is fuel surcharge protection,,, in this area fuel is 2.26 right now!
what would you charge for this haul?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 2hellandback, Dec 12, 2008.
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I'm thinking if this is a long term thing there has to be a provision in there to adjust for fuel prices. Just because it's down now dosen't mean it's going to last forever.
With fuel like it is right now I am thinking like 1000-1200 a trip. -
you want to work for $1000 a day minus fuel, maintenance and insurance???
you'r still looking at $200 in fuel, $55 a day for maintenance, $35 to $45 for truck payment (or extra maintenance for an older truck) then take out your taxes and insurances (health and disability and bobtail) and what do you have left? don't know about you but it doesn't add up to enough to have the hassle of running your own business to me.
I'd have to bump it to around $1800 that's roughly $3miles which is what I want for shorter mileage runs. but that's me. Sorry if i expect to be paid for working -
Yeah I use the 3 dollar number for running around as a minumim. 250 mile and over kind of stuff.
Local I don't want to talk unless it is hourly.
But he is talking about operating under their insurance and pulling their trailer.
standard agreements are from like 65% to 70% of the gross freight, 100 percent tolls 100% FSC to the truck.
Maybe I screwed the math up somewhere. It did sound kind of low when I wrote it -
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Listen... just because things are in the crapper don't mean you should run for nothing. I'll park a truck and go broke but I'm not working 6 or 7 days a week to go broke. The minute you stop fighting the cheap rates is the minute before they lower them some more.
I did miss that it's pulling there trailers though. You go look at what local and short hauls pay per miles. $3 isn't out of line at all. (i don't mean looking at a load board either) -
I used the basic per ton / per hour method that I used when hauling bulk in a tri-axle dump. $3.50 per ton / hour. So for example, a 2 hour round would pay $7.00/ton. Now guessing you equipment had a tare or around 40K, that leaves you hauling around 44 ton. Plug in the numbers, and I came up with around $1550. Only problem with this is it doesn't allow for a fuel surcharge, but it gives a ballpark amount.
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i'd like to know how you're figuring you numbers. My verdict is 2.50 per mile plus fuel surcharge.
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Also you are talking 129k lbs, i say 1500 is a good rate for that, i wouldnt tear my truck up pulling that weight for any less...... Then again i dont haul steel anymore just because of that very reason, want you to run 250 miles for 1000 with 130k on, LOL yeah right.
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