Liquid Totes And Tanker Endorsement

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  1. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    And that is their prerogative, but not the law.
     
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  3. flood

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    55 gl. drums DON'T require a tanker endorsement
     
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  4. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    just remember that by the reg's if the tots are empty you still have to have the tanker endorsement
     
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  5. Bob Dobalina

    Bob Dobalina Road Train Member

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    Wait...how do you figure?

    It's required for 1,000+ gallons of liquid, not just empty capacity.
     
  6. loudtom

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    Colorado CDL manual says:

    "A tank endorsement is required if your vehicle needs a Class A or B CDL and you want to haul a liquid or liquid gas in a tank or tanks having an individual rated capacity of more than 119 gallons and an aggregate rated capacity of 1000 gallons or more that is either permanently or temporarily attached to the vehicle or the chassis."

    My interpretation of the underlined is that the tanks must have liquid, so you don't require it for empty tanks. But if there is any liquid in the tanks, you go by the rated capacity as stated in bold, not the actual amount you have.
     
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  7. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    from fmcsa's website
    Question 33: Must the driver of an empty tank vehicle that is being transported from the manufacturer to a local distributor or purchaser have a tank endorsement on his or her commercial drivers license (CDL)?

    Guidance: Yes. One of the primary objectives of the CDL program is to ensure that drivers are qualified to safely operate the type of vehicle they will be driving. To achieve this objective, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) require a driver to pass a knowledge and skills test for the CMV group they intend to drive. In addition to this requirement, if the driver will be operating double/triple trailers, a tank vehicle, or a CMV used to transport passengers, they must also obtain an appropriate endorsement on their CDL. The specific requirements for the knowledge and skills tests an applicant must meet to obtain a CDL and the various endorsements can be found in Subpart G of part 383 of the FMCSRs.
     
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    Lolno

    Question 14: On May 9, 2011, FMCSA revised the definition of "tank vehicle." Does the new definition cover the transportation of empty intermediate bulk containers (IBCs) or other tanks, or empty storage tanks?

    Guidance:

    No. The definition of "tank vehicle" does not cover the transportation of empty IBCs or other tanks when these containers are manifested as either empty or as residue on a bill of lading. Furthermore, the definition of tank vehicle does not cover the transportation of empty storage tanks that are not designed for transportation and have a rated capacity of 1,000 gallons or more, that are temporarily attached to a flatbed vehicle.
     
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  9. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    this is the KEY PART "rated capacity" doesn't matter how much is in it but what IT CAN HOLD.... and empty it still has the same RATED CAPACITY full, empty 1/2 full doesn't change the RATED CAPACITY of the tank
     
  10. loudtom

    loudtom Road Train Member

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    So what if you filled the same container with cheese puffs? Do you still need a tanker endorsement?
     
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  11. oicu812

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    Yes, because of the large amount of beer you'll need to wash them down with.
     
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