My experience in Prime's lease program so far.

Discussion in 'Lease Purchase Trucking Forum' started by crocky, Feb 2, 2018.

  1. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    36 months or 156 weeks. Its weekly. $1041 + $70 for the APU. That includes insurance.

    Truck ends up being $162 on a lease and the APU is $10k. There is also a tire fund of .05 dispatched mile which for me averages around $130-150/week.

    If you finish the 3 year lease you get a lease completion pay out of somewhere between $10-20k just depends what they have to do to the truck after your done.

    You can figure that running the truck will cost you around $2,5k to $3k each week. I usually make between $4-5k to my truck each week as a solo driver. So I average around $1,5 lease to date it was a bit higher like $1,7ish but the last month +/- a few weeks I've had some below average weeks which has lowered my weekly average to the $1,5 range.

    IMO the lease is not a good deal, but you can make more money than you'd make as a company driver. I won't finish my lease, I'll turn the truck in sometime after I get my year done for my cdl.
     
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  3. IrreverentCrawfish

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    What kind of truck do you lease? $1041/week seems a bit high for a prime truck.
     
  4. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    2018 Cascadia, the new style. It's a fleet truck but not a plane Jane model like a lot of companies run. Has power windows, heated mirrors, sleeper windows, air slide tandem, rear locker, right way gauge, tire pressure sensors and so on.. It's not owner op spec'd but likely as nice of a fleet truck as you can get.

    The price is still to high though, but keep in mind that includes insurance.
     
  5. MysticHZ

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    $.05 is way to much for a tire fund ... Prime should be getting a decent discount on a national account ... Steers would run you about $800 a pair and drives around $3200 for 8, after casing credit ... Figure 2 sets of steers and 1 set of drives over 300K miles ... that's $4800 and you're paying $15K over that time.

    Even if you pay full retail, your cost would be maybe double that.
     
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  6. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    I agree 100% one of the reasons I won't finish a lease. Everything about their lease program is meant to make them money. I'm simply doing my year for my CDL then will decide what I do after that.

    With that said, you do get back most of the tire fund money at the end of the lease, but I'd assume most people don't complete the lease so Prime is able to pocket that money.
     
  7. Scooter Jones

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    I wonder what the true % is of those that actually finish the lease? I bet it's less than 10% What do you think?
     
  8. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    Well trucking in general is a very high turn over job, so I dont think it would be fair to go precentage wise across the top, but I don't honestly know how you could really come up with a reliable number with out having the typical churn of new drivers that wouldn't stay no matter if it was lease or company.

    What I can say is about 20 people from my class are all on a app that lets us see where each other are so we can meet up and stay in contact. In our group we've only lost 1 guy who went to another company and then he left that company for another. Basically in our group going on 6 months we only lost the one guy and I'm pretty sure we are all lease.
     
  9. Scooter Jones

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    Here's what I did to get my feet wet as an owner operator. Everyone else's mileage may vary.

    After 5 years running OTR & regional, I went into the office for a year on the management team of the company I was working for at the time.

    After a year, I decided being in a corporate environment just wasn't my cup of tea and decided to get back in a truck. The owner asked me if I wanted to lease op and I agreed. He had a true walk away lease option and I was able to lease (rent) a new Volvo 670 for $2,000 a month plus 10 cents a mile full maintenance coverage.

    He pays 90% of load and the lease op pays for everything else, including a trailer rental fee.

    I did it for a few mos and decided that I wanted to become an owner operator. I negotiated to buy a 2010 truck from a dealer, put down 25% with the bank and signed a 5 year loan agreement at 5.5% interest.

    My payments were $611.98 a month on that truck and I signed it onto the same carrier running under his authority. I made decent settlements, however, started getting nervous about the maintenance costs associated with an older truck. I also didn't like having to run that guy's freight in his trailers depending on his dispatchers to keep me rolling the way I wanted.

    So, after a few mos I went back to the same bank, showed him my settlements and convinced him to make me a 5.5% interest loan with 10% down on a new truck ;-) What's crazy is that I was able to get on trade what I had purchased the 2010 truck for.

    That was December of 2015. In January of 2016 I obtained my own authority, bought my own trailer and cut the other guy loose.

    I haven't looked back. It's the best move I could of possibly made.
     
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  10. crocky

    crocky Road Train Member

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    This is the route I'm looking to take. I'd have no issue of putting a down payment on a truck and running at Prime. The problem is Prime requires a 2016 or newer with all the safety stuff. A 3 yo truck is quite a bit more than even a 2015 due to most 16's still being under lease. So it means I'd be paying more than I'd like.

    The other issue is if I didn't lease on to prime I'd maybe try to buy a diffrent truck, like a Coronado roller or something.
     
  11. trucker28truck

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    Formula to calculate summary from the last statement, total money i earned, devide by number of miles i run = that the ammount i earned per mile. Or you have other formula how to calculate summary???

    And you refusing loads? Prime does not favor drivers who refuse loads, risking to end up in black list .
     
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