I guess I will put this here since their is not a fleet owners sections,

Do they cite any cases to back up the claim? Every case of the affirmative defense states that i have seen was examples of what i was saying.

 

i generally carry a gun in the truck. a few times iv had to stop by someones house i know in Minot to drop it off with him going to either Minot air force base or if i get a load in or out of Canada and i wasn't expecting to run up there and no chance to stop by the house. i run a small enough area and generally know when im likely to run somewhere it will be a problem far enough ahead of time i will have a opportunity to take it out of the truck.

at the air force base i asked them onetime what would i would need to do if i got a load going there i was not planning on and had a gun with me, they basically told me to avoid that but said if it did happen to tell them at the gate and i would be escorted to some place on base where it could be secured basically sounded like a big hassle in short but it would not be a no go as long as i was upfront about it.

as far as a no firearms sign at a normal loading/unloading place just have it put away in the truck.

as far as hiring a driver that carried i would not have a problem unless they made it a problem.

 

No HUGE difference.

Here is why.

If my driver gets into a fight with another driver, the other driver has a knife or a club and my driver feels threatened, and shoots the guy dead then I have a responsibility in the eyes of the law in many states and in the courts. It was because I permitted the guy to carry, I can end up being dragged into court with a wrongful death lawsuit because of that I did permit it.

Now in your example, if I tried hard to mitigate the risks by doing everything possible, then even if I get into a court room, I have a better chance to have little or no responsibility in the eyes of a jury or court for the driver's actions.

 

Where I come from and grew up at we call it Buck Fever I don't suffer from it I can put rounds on targets as needed

 

When American buisness owners become cowards and start to infringe on second amendment rights at the hands of fantasy “what if’s”, the left has officially won the gun debate..

They can’t come and take them, the plan is to make it a big enough hassle the average dumb### American coward gives up their rights..

 

And if in that same scenario your cwp employee who left his firearm at home gets stabbed 6 times and bleeds out waiting for the paramedics to arrive, you don't think the widow is going to come after you with the same vigor? Speaks volumes that you place the lives of thugs and criminals above those of your employees.

 

No, you don't seem to get this bulldog, we live in a twisted society where we have people suing over stupid crap.

I being sued by the family of my driver because of a company policy is unlikely but being sued by a family who has been shot by my driver because I allowed it to happen is more likely to happen in our world.

what many don't seem to get is the thought that we have devolved into a society where personal responsibility is absent.

It is always someone else's fault.

Someone holds up a store, some customer blasts the guy to hell and then he is one charged with a crime, then that scum's family gets an ambulance chaser to sue over the guys rights being violated by the customer and causing his death even after the cops cleared him from any wrong doing.

 

Such a long-winded response. You could've simply responded that you trust other people to do the right thing more than your own employees, and that you'd rather see one of your own "family" hurt or killed rather than potentially get dragged into court by the family of a thug. Bottom line, though, if your employee was properly licensed and used it responsibly to protect his own life when it was in actual danger, you have little to worry about under the laws of most states.

 

Really? Got any proof the company owner of getting sued? And losing? And not actually provide the weapon, just simply allow it?
I bet for every news article you find I can find 10 that the victim's family is the one suing and winning cases of wrongful death.
And anyway, if they are Independent Contractors like you claim that gives your company an additional layer of protection.

 

People need to stop trying to out-think lawyers and their prospective clients. A lawyer will find any reason they can to sue if someone wants them to.

Looking to this board to justify a position as a company owner is a little weak if you ask me. It's your company, make the decision that suits YOU.