please explain in laymans terms how the points work on your CDL

No, the points that you get for moving violations affect your driver's license. The psp points affect a company's csa score, so they may elect to terminate you or not hire you.

 

Where do you guys get this crap (PSP points etc) from?

 

From the horses mouth I mean the gubermrnt
On PSP scores
Pre-Employment Screening Program - Let's Get Started

 

CSA has nothing to do with a CDL. Points are assessed for most moving violations as a means to stop habitual violators. It is just a MVR thing.

 

Ok since the horses mouth says, and I quote “All records state where and when a crash or inspection occurred. Crash records also note any fatalities, injuries, or towaways, and inspection records display any co-driver involvement and out-of-service status when applicable. The PSP record does not assign a score or point values“, I ask will ask again, where do you guys get this crap (PSP points) from?

 

That’s totally incorrect.

 

Sorry, I believe I misunderstood your point.

 

Ok, psp points are not correct, but the what is in the drivers' psp are what they use to form a csa score for the carrier.

In other words, if I get an inspection, and there are violations, those will be assigned points on my carrier's csa score.

 

Actually it’s a longer story than most take the time to study. PSP uses some data from CSA. CSA doesn’t use PSP data.

CSA does not score carriers or drivers. Saying they do displays a lack of understanding on how CSA works.

A quote from the CSA horses mouth. “CSA does not rate drivers or issue a composite driver or carrier “score.” Carriers or private vendors may issue “scorecards,” but FMCSA does not issue or endorse these.”

In your example, if you have violations due to a crash or during an inspection the time weighted violation points are not simply added up for a score. That can’t work because under the structure of CSA violations in each basic are not equal or comparable to each other. Very simply put CSA uses an algorithm which compares similar size companies (Actually size groups) with similar numbers of crashes and inspections. Those at the bottom of the pile are subject to interventions and those at the top keep rocking merrily along without intrusions.

 

I got too many speeding ticket. If I want to court instead of paying a simple fine I would be over the 8 total points needed to completely Suspend a Class A license. Causes? Speeding.

Judge says 7 points total and a 120 dollar fine after court fees and 45 dollar ticket. And I had to go to Frederick to have a high muck a muck sourpuss sit there and lecture to me about the privilege of driving with a license. It was more of a bawling out situation from Full Metal Jacket than anything really 30 minutes of one way yelling.

No one would hire OTR at that kind of problem. My solution?> Hire onto a small dump truck with a farm and paving operation. No DAC no worries about driving record, no worry about nothing. Be at work 5 am sharp.

That set into a situation in which it will become life changing because I was at that time enjoying a small group of friends who became family in that small operation for several years. They for once did not have a accident problem like before me.

What they DID get was a little bit of dump truck racing from time to time. King of the Hill was one example. We had a particular grassy knoll over a bridge out that was about 150 feet high and could fit one truck at the top. There we went right through the river loaded and ZIP right up to the top. Loser pays the bet. (We were building a common road to the new bridge but we did not bother with the detour, off road we went.) Just watch the power at the top because she'll try to come off it's suspension and there isn't any place for a wheel to come down again safely without rolling it.

Moving hay on the farm was the best, We had I think a '54 or '55 dodge gas v8 with three on the steering column plus a flat bed for a daully. 16000 pounds of stone was a nice haul from to time, butt hat's easy compared to three rows of rolled baled hay loaded suicide against your cab,.

It will be half a day to sleep until the hay is cut, processed and then loaded by stake onto your rig., Once you start moving to the hay storage the very land on the farm will consiprie to make you tip that load. And as a jackpot, create a genuine emergency by making you beak the electric fence.

Get about roughly 90 rolls in at some point would be all what the storage would hold.

Flatbeds from others would show up and i'll tell them to follow me. One trip was enough to allow those outside vendors buying direct,. But only a certain amount,

One of these days I'' take a stab at that hay again, It will have to be with tractor because I am not what I as 30 years ago