ELD's and Pipe Yards?

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  1. JonasTtrucker

    JonasTtrucker Light Load Member

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    You guys that haul pipe and now are using ELD's, what effect has it had on your business? Seems like loading times can drastically cut into available driving hours making it more difficult to carry more loads.
     
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  3. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    I don't haul pipes but that's the point of ELDs. Drivers would not log time working when they really are.
     
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  4. FLHT

    FLHT Road Train Member

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    Getting pipe out of Houston area has been interesting.
    I have not seen a big increase in price but I have seen where it takes a few days to cover a string of drill pipe.
     
  5. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Waiting in lines isn't working buddy.
     
  6. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    Yes it is. It call Waiting In Readiness to operate or being in attendance of a commercial vehicles for loading and unloading. You can't just just park the truck and walk away, your waiting to operate and move truck around for loading or unloading.


    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;
     
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  7. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    Here is the full on duty time definition. A driver could log Sleeper Beth. That would be legal I believe. I would not log Off DUTY at a shipper or receiver

    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;

    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or

    (iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;

    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;
     
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  8. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    DOT rules are like the pirate code.....

    More of a suggestion really
     
  9. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Yea I know what the law thinks about it, but sitting in line for a couple hours is not working and should not count against your driving time. I dont know anybody who gets paid for waiting in line and frankly don't understand how anybody is ok with only driving 11 hours a day unless they go home every night.
     
  10. Brandt

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    Maybe drivers should get paid for waiting since it part of their working time. Lots of drives seem to be ok giving their time away for free. Then claim the 70 hours a week is not enough time. If some want to give their time away for free that their choice. I don't see how we can say we need more working hour if we are giving time away for free. Use the ELD to see who is taking a drivers time away from driving and making money. Then get them to pay for detention or a rate per mile to cover the waiting time. So drivers can log it and stop working at 70 hours a week and make a paycheck.
     
  11. skellr

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    Pipe can really suck time...
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