School Bus/Dump Truck Collision-I-80 Near Mount Olive,New Jersey

and IF that is what happened, i say lock up that bus driver for life. we trust school bus drivers with our kids lives each and every day, being more precious than the freight any of us haul.

 

That's what looked like could have occurred but if that's the case, how do you react to someone who would do that?

How do you react to a school district with apparently zero training or hiring standards?

If this turns out to be the case, NJ and no doubt other school districts have bigger child safety concerns than guns on campus and they need to get their own house in order, first.

 

If that is the core rot inside the school bus system, I would be among the first to start stacking a bunch of money and lawyers to get ready for battle with the grieving families and damaged ones.

In Maryland back in the late 70's they introduced the so called high back seats and it was a problem among us deaf because it took away lines of sight needed for communicating. Anyhow we took a speeding vehicle offset head on one day with those and I managed to turn my head to side to take the hit on my cheekbone rather than straight on the chin. I knew at least that much. But everyone did well with the exception of the car driver who ate his steering column.

I do agree with the mechanics of how a school bus is designed to take damage shearing etc. The problem becomes a sort of torsion imposed on the young ones bodies as they are twisted violently possibly. Sometimes human bodies exceed a working load of the ligaments and other tissues that hold organs like the heart in place and so on when forced to. And in young ones they do not have the adult formations yet usually. Literally still tender.

I have not heard a single word about how the dump truck driver must be doing. It must be a very bad mental stress on him being put into a position with that bus in front of him at interstate speeds. You really cannot do too much with a dump like you might with a 18 wheeler because you usually dont have the bridging or stablility within reason from the trailer. Or worse you might have equiptment being towed on your pintle and you cannot do much with that at all.

Once in a while my old Superliner 500 dump likes to get away from me when it's beginning to rain in very specific situations usually with a violent slide to the left trying to swap ends. But a big enough steering wheel turned fast enough just enough usually settled her down quickly. But when heavy and loaded to the top (Usually over gross) she's a sweetheart because it was a former OTR tractor in her day.

 

If it turns out to be the actions of the bus driver, many will circle the wagons to protect him or her from excessive blame forces and it will just be another "tragic accident that we should all move on from"

But if it was the truck driver, the entire industry will be under the gun.

 

I don't know. Our school district and their bus drivers do nothing without three chiefs supervising them so to speak. The ones who do get into a school bus for the route assigned during any given school year have been by and large pretty good.

Yes I agree with your assessment that if it was Swift that tried the middle and killed a bunch of kids or whatever the whole trucking industry would be nailed to the rack.

I don't think the school district will be willing to circle the wagons and try to protect a newbie bus driver who evidently either was off route or otherwise screwed up enough to create this situation in which lives are lost.

I don't know what is going to happen with this one. But I will certainly be right there with you and follow this situation as it unfolds into summer time.

 

in this pic, looks like the dump truck struck the bus in the middle lane?




and the dump in the left lane.




NJ school bus collision leaves 2 dead, some critically hurt

 

Unless somebody unintentionally levitated their vehicle over the median barrier and was placed gently onto the other side to be struck by others, somebody made a tragic error in judgment is all I can say at this point.

 

Un freaking believable. No suspected cause for the crash has been announced yet but this story on MSN's website is already trying to make the dump truck carrier guilty because they have some "safety issues" and went out of their way to notate them all in the story

School bus ripped apart in dump truck crash, killing 2

So I think I see what is not being said and where this is going. SMH. This is just like how they recently took Trump's comments about MS13 gang members out of context to make it sound like he was referring to illegals in general.

 

I have already read a few articles about this accident. One that caught my attention was that there were seat belts in the school bus. If that's true, that probably saved many lives.

 

yes, on the national news (not fake news) rescuers had to cut students dangling from the seat belts. (some may not have been belted, which lead rescuers to look into the woods for thrown bodies).

also, i just minutes ago saw, that there is quite a distance form the impact, to where the dump truck finally stopped.

with out a doubt, the dump driver was doing (at least) highway speed. still NO WORD on him, other than he went to the hospital as well.

the accident is still under investigation. there were 3 busses in total the news said, the other 2 were nowhere to be found.

i wonder if they took an exit, this one was far behind, saw he screwed up, and tried to make a u turn on the highway?

if so, what thought process was happening to that bus driver, to make such a decision?

did he/she think that bus could turn on a dime, or accelerate as fast as thier personal car can..??

had that bus driver pulled such stunts IN thier own car and IN the bus as well, previous times??

no word yet too, on the bus drivers driving/employment record......