Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

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  1. KVB

    KVB Heavy Load Member

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    I don't think White had anything to do with it. White was out of the WS picture long before.

    Volvo bought White in 1980/1981, Western Star was bought by 2 canadian companies, and continued as an indepedant truck manufacturer.
    In 1991 Terry Peabody bought Western Star, that is also the period the Western Stars with DAF cab were produced.

    Later Peabody also bought UK truck manufacturer ERF (later sold to MAN), and ERF cabs were used on Western Stars down under.

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    The DAF95 cab is actually a joint developement of DAF and Pegaso, in the cabtech consortium.

    Pegaso bought Seddon Atkinson from International which gave Seddon Atkinson access to the cab as well. Sidenote: International had shares in DAF at that time as well, but had to sell a lot of assets to prevent bankruptcy, the DAF shares, Seddon Atkinson, farm equipment branch (to Tenneco/Case), etc.
    Later on Iveco bought Pegaso (and Seddon Atkinson with it), and Pegaso and Seddon Atkinson started using Iveco cabs.

    When Steyr needed a new cab, they also considered the cabtech cab (instead of developping their own new large cab), and at least one prototype was built (with Pegaso front grill).
    But MAN bought Steyr not much later, and heavy Steyrs kept using the old cab for a number of years. Later Steyrs were rebadged MAN's.
    Small MAN's (and ERFs) used Steyr's small cab.

    Old Steyr cab is still produced and a very common sight in China.
     
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    Reason for edit: Added International sidenote
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    If you believe or not...............a low roof is a low roof.
    Believing does not raise it.
    While i understand you like the look,my viewpoint is that praticallity is the #1 requirement in truckchoice.
     
  4. 98989

    98989 Road Train Member

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    Even if it is high this cab will not be too practical.
     
  5. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Flat tops aren't that bad. I wouldn't want to spend two weeks in one, but if i ran more regional where i was only gone a couple days at a time it would be perfect. The only thing you give up is the storage above your head.
     
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    haycarter Road Train Member

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    It's a Western Star not White... & it's a Cab from your beloved DAF

    At the Time western Star were the Australian distributors of DAF. They Didn't have a COE for the B double market so they Produced these. .From Memory they were either Series 60 or N14 powered & 18speed

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  8. haycarter

    haycarter Road Train Member

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    Those Voith retarders are Excellent. But as you say Too expensive to be Viable ..
     
  9. Cat sdp

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    How much money.....?
     
  10. 98989

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    It is called voith viab, mb name is turbo retarder clutch. Very nice thing temperature stable you can be on clutch with high weight for 2minutes on 60-70% incline.

    27000usd
     
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  11. Caesar

    Caesar Road Train Member

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    Yes, indeed it is the old 95 ATI cab that was also used by Pegaso and Seddon Atkinson:

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