Secret court: Warrantless NSA wiretapping fine

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  1. Baack

    Baack Road Train Member

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    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10143520-38.html?tag=nl.e433
     
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  3. cplmac2

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    I have never grasped the logic that thought we had some kind of constitutional obligation to international communications. The whole FISA issue is kind of a bad joke on our security. Some people think the constitution should be applicable to all citizens of earth....
     
  4. Baack

    Baack Road Train Member

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    What worries me is they are able to run ammuck of my rights while doing their investigations of these so called foreign interest's
     
  5. LandShark

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    So tell me...Which one of YOUR PERSONAL rights have been violated.
    answer probably none....
     
  6. Baack

    Baack Road Train Member

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    Actually I was talking in general
    As per the patriots act, they promise not to use any incriminating info if found that does not apply to their direct interest
    I watch Law and Order like I believe any of them LOL
    They will lie and sneak to make a case
     
  7. LandShark

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    well in general since the law was enacted ONLY one case has this happend and the defendant won the case IE he was email communication OUT OF COUNTRY to Iraq to his familiy. Unless you are making communications by email or phone OUT OF COUNTRY to the trouble middle East areas YOU HAVE NO WORRIES... so dont stress it.....
     
  8. LandShark

    LandShark Road Train Member

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    BTW i watch O'Reily, Hannity and listen to Beck so i get what is actually going on in this country
     
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  9. cplmac2

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    If it makes you feel any better Baack, the feds don't have anywhere near enough people to monitor all of this communication. They barely have enough people to monitor the stuff that gets flagged for keyword violations. I understand the slippery slope argument though, seatbelt laws are a perfect example. When those laws were passed in IL they were passed with the express understanding that they would NEVER be used to pull someone over (primary offense) but only a ticket when someone was pulled over for another offense. They have of course changed that now and there are seatbelt checkpoints at random intersections throughout Chicago's suburbs with cops walking between cars at stoplights looking in peoples windows to make sure they are wearing their seatbelts. If they aren't they are issued citations. So yeah, the slippery slope argument does carry water sometimes, I just don't think it does on this level because of the resource requirements that aren't there.
     
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  10. Pur48Ted

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    Walking in between vehicles stopped for a traffic light and checking for "seat belts" isn't the same as stopping someone because they don't have a seat belt on.
     
  11. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    Don't have near enough people? Psht!

    You don't need any. Welcome to voice recognition software. Try using any of several hundred catch words and phrases over a week.

    If they want you, they'll get you.
     
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