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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PharmPhail, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    I think you must be talking of quarterly ifta tax, yes?

    For arguments sake, lets just say your truck gets an even 6 mpg. Now lets just say you ran exactly 120 miles in North Carolina durring the whole quarter. You would have burned 20 gallons of fuel in doing so. You could either buy 20 gallons while in NC and owe nothing, or you could buy no fuel, but would pay .299 cents for every 20 gallons you burned but did not buy. 20 X .299 = $5.98 that you would owe the state of NC. Or, lets say you bought 21 gallons, then you would have a credit or .299 cents (call it 30 cents)

    You can google up what the state fule tax is for all 48 states, then figgure where best to purchase the majority, if not all of your fuel.

    An example is myself - I run from Wisconsin to Florida and back. I purchase the majority of my fuel in the 2 states that that are the most expensive - Fla and Ill. I will pay .13 cents per gallon more in Ill that what I could get it for in KY, but the tax credit per gallon in Ill right now is over .25 cents/gallon vs KY. In other words, fuel is cheaper in Ill by .12 cents per gallon vs KY, even though cash price in KY is .12 cent/gallon cheaper at the pump.

    I figgured out how best to buy my fuel, that I actually had a credit of 71 cents for the last quarter.

    I post a link for the current state taxes and fuel prices, but don't want to risk geting an infraction. Hell, I'll just PM it to ya....
     
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  3. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    They want to sell me services, insurance, agent stuff.

    Now if it were SHIPPERS, that would be sweet!
     
  4. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    One guy left a message just after 5 oclock. He says "STOP. I see you're filing your DOT authority and you're doing it all wrong. You NEED to call me back and get this straightened out or it will cost you!"

    At the time I was still on the phone with the insurance guy who just did it, and he was laughing saying man that guy sure has his pitch figured out, I can't believe he just said that.
     
  5. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    That's GREAT info! If I'm understanding you correctly though, you don't actually save money, you just manipulate WHEN you pay the taxes so you don't get in a bind, right?
     
  6. easeway

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    How did your insurance quote turn out for 48 state running?
     
  7. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    I ended up not needing that due to the type of work I'm going to try. But the highest quote we played with was over 8k for JUST the liability (no cargo or damage which are smaller amounts), and that was based on zones, but not all 48. Would have gotten me just a bit West of the centerline. Van insurance is a little cheaper than end-dump though, so there is some evening out of the price.

    You can definitely get it, but it will cost you, probably in the neighborhood of 1k a month and that's with 25% down as well.
     
  8. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    Depends on how you look at it. Well actually yes, the way I buy fuel is aimed at saving me money. Some guys buy all their fuel where ever it is cheapest at the pump, such as states like In, Tn, Ky, Ga etc, becuase the fuel tax is about 12-17 cents per gallon, and thus it's reflected in the pump price. However, this is not neccessarly the cheapest way to buy fuel overall, because these guys will end up paying in at the end of the qaurter in the states like Fla and Ill where they didnt buy a drop.

    If you go to that site that I PM'ed ya, look at the 3rd colum from the left and it shows you the Ex-Tax Fuel price. That alone tells all

    Look at it like this - If, hypotheticaly speaking, fuel today was the exact same price at the pump in NC as it is in Va, and these were 2 states you were to do some running in, you would want to buy your fuel in Nc, since the tax is 12 cents more than in Va.
     
  9. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    I see, so the difference in fuel prices cannot be entirely accounted for by the differing tax rates. Some states actually sell it cheaper as a commodity, and then the taxation is a second concern to balance overall.

    So, go for low base price, high tax.

    Gotcha!

    I still have to figure out how that chart reflects whatever the hell I just said.
     
  10. Scarecrow03

    Scarecrow03 Road Train Member

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    Ok, but I thought Oregon was something altogether different than the example you've provided Magnum?

    I know this doesn't apply to Pharm's current situation, but I'm trying to understand all this stuff too.
     
  11. badcompany

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    you dont pay any taxes at the pump in oregon
     
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