Heavy Haul Vs Regular Haul

What's wrong with the car? Were the multiple items creating an oversized condition?

 

The car means it is a divisible load. Can't have two items on the deck.

A few years ago on Ice Road Truckers a big load got pulled over for that. Apparently the piece of equipment they were hauling COULD have been shipped on three trucks, then assembled at location with a crane. That was an expensive mistake.

 

Of course you can. It happens all the time.

Most states say something to the effect that multiple items can't create an oversized condition. I've also seen restrictions on multiple items creating multiple oversize conditions, such as one being over width and the other being over length.

If it's overweight then obviously any additional pieces make it more so and would be a no no.

 

Alright, then I need to learn.

 

Other than violating curfew if he was just oversize and not overweight having a car on would not violate the permit. Overweight AND having the car on then it gets very expensive very quick !!

 

Don't feel bad. Most of the guys I run into running oversize haven't even looked at their permits and wouldn't know any better. I see tons of oversize curfew violations and I've seen a fair few guys who didn't realize their permit was for a completely different type of set up. They have a permit in their hand, they roll.

 

Or (and I'm stabbing in the dark, don't remember ok rules) if the car overhang the front and that created an oversized condition, that could cause problems.

 

depends on the length of the trailer. 48 ft trailer hanging off the front (under 4 ft) won't be considered over size. I don't know with a 53 ft and how Ok rules would apply. But if he was just over width and the car wasn't adding to the width I don't see an issue.

 

This is not true at all. Assuming it won't put you over weight you can have multiple pieces on a permitted load. The whole non divisible thing is in reference to two(or more) different pieces that would make you oversize. For exampke you can't get 2 5 ft wide crates loaded dude by side and permit it as a 10 ft wide load. However its perfectly legal to have a 10 wide crate and then a 9 wide crate behind it.

 

Non divisible-

You can’t stack a load on a trailer so high that an overheight permit is required. You can’t put more than 1 object on a trailer so that it extends past the sides of the trailer and get an over width permit. You can’t have more than 1 object on a trailer and get a permit for overweight.

The load that you’re describing sounds like an LTL load. As long as his axle weights are correct (>34k on drives, >40k on the 10’2 spread, >80k gwv), he’s fine. Now, a guy like @superhauler, who’s running a bigger rig and an 8 axle setup, and probably weighs 50k or more empty, 20k more than that stepdeck, would run into trouble trying to do an LTL much quicker because of the weight of his rig. Hence why you don’t see heavyhaulers doing LTL loads.

A word of warning: do not do an LTL rate for an over dimensional piece. Say for example, you’re trying to put together an LTL load, and one piece is 10x10. A broker will try to sell this as an LTL. The states will require the same permits and regs as a TL. You better get the same rate as a TL to cover for the extra time and expense and fuel.