Worst states to be caught driving dirty?

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  1. jon69

    jon69 Medium Load Member

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    Someone mentioned in another thread IL is a bad State to be caught driving illegaly- that is with log book violations.

    What are some others?

    Nothing happened to me, but a fellow driver from my small company was caught in OH and put out of service.

    What can he expect as far as fines? and does the company get fined as well?
     
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  3. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    All of them.
    Fines, fees and any other charges are usually provided at the time of the inspection, citation.
     
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  4. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    I don't know about you but I'd rather not chance it in ANY state
     
  5. T-800

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    OH dot is the most arrogant. I think it’s in their handbook to be pricks. Both of the dakotas are really go tos in my book. Got a full air brake inspection in North Dakota at a random inspection site. Spent 45 min there and missed a pickup. Then a weight master in South Dakota argued with me for 40 min on the weight of a tractor because I only had 2 chains on it and he said I needed 4. Also indiana is bad. I’ve heard indiana state police have the most cops per square mile in the country. I hauled oversized farm equipment so dot wasn’t my friend
     
  6. Pumpkin Oval Head

    Pumpkin Oval Head Road Train Member

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    On my first day driving I made 2 mistakes by the weigh station in Sioux Falls. Tickets would have been $300 each, and the guy let me off with a written warning. An officer and a gentleman, he was....I couldn’t believe it.
     
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  7. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    2 mistakes? Can you explain?
     
  8. SteveScott

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    ELD's make driving legally fairly idiot proof, so it's not something I lay awake nights thinking about. If you're still on paper logs and run illegally, well then you're probably use to be nervous about it.
     
  9. jon69

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    He was using ELD and he was caught for violating the 11 hour rule. In other words he kept driving when his day should have ended.

    It was a first offence, so Im wondering the approximate dollar amount of the fine? also does the company get a fine as well?
     
  10. Pumpkin Oval Head

    Pumpkin Oval Head Road Train Member

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    Sure, but these are both a long story....this was in 2010, and paper logbook.....I only used one at a time!!!
    1. My first day driving with cdl. The school I graduated from usually has students fill out a log book the last few weeks of training.......why would that be important? Because my ticket was for not having the prior 7 days logged as not driving......I had totally forgotten about that. So the officer has me in his car and says fill in your logbook as “not driving” the prior week, so I start to do it, and he says, “put the carbon paper in so your boss gets his copy”. So ok, I do, knowing full well my boss could not care less about my logbook.

    2. The fact I got pulled over in the first place, caused me to get caught on the log book violation.......so here is page two. This violation caused me to get caught for both violations.
    I was on I90 in Mn headed west toward SD. I had checked my rand mcnally map on the MN page for weigh stations, as my route took me to I 29 north on the east side of ND, to Lake Norden. There were NO #### weigh scales on the frigging map on my route...on the MN page, which also showed my route up I 29. I did not check the SD page.

    So I am on my way, and there is construction, and I am looking for the construction zone signs to drop the speed limit down from 75 mph.....and I see the first one dropping to 60 mph, so I slow down. Then I am watching for the 45 mph signs.....and watching......all kinds of construction signs in the median.....and watching......and watching.....and then I see a trooper hugging my ###......just following me.....and following me. What the hell did I do wrong? Then the trooper drops off, and a DOT suv pulls up behind me with his reds on.....I pull over once we get out of the construction zone.

    He comes up and I say hello. He asks if I saw the Port of Entry sign? I only know of a port of entry for cruise ships....so I asked, What is a port of entry? Because I had not heard it called such until that day. He says it is a weigh scale. I am stunned.......but wait, it is not on the map. How long has it been here? He says 20 years. I say I was busy looking for the 45 mph construction speed limit sign, so I didnt see the weigh scale sign. He says they dont care about troopers in SD, as the speed limit only drops to 60 mph in a work zone. The tanker was half full and no way would it be overweight, so there was no reason for me to bypass the weigh scale. I was really distracted by all the construction signs.....It seemed like every 500 feet there was a sign.

    I went back to the scool and told the instructors, and they were very surprised I got off with no fine. They also admitted they didnt do the logbooks like they usually do.

    And, the rand mcnally page of SD shows the port of entry, so I learned I have to check every state my route goes through to find all the weigh scales.

    Funny thing, the next time I came through there, I saw both the weigh scale signs.....

    But funniest thing was my trainer. He was 18 and sleeping in the bunk, and could not drive outside Iowa. He did not keep a log book, and I told him he should and that I was logging my book correctly, as I took over when we left Iowa, so I would keep him legal

    He stuck his head out and they wanted his license, but he was legal. There ended up being two dot officers there. I dont recall if they asked for his logbook, I dont think they did. So anyway, he had run this route before, illegally. He decided after that day to not run it anymore, as he thought the dot would remember the orange Peterbuilt. I continued to run it with no problems.

    Rand mcnally needs to put a disclaimer in the front their atlas that says weigh scales are not shown for adjoining states on the state map pages......or maybe I am the only person that didnt know that.

    Told you it was a long story!
     
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