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Dorothy on Maxxforce

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by q258, Oct 31, 2018.

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  1. Oct 31, 2018 #1
    q258

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    Anyone using or familiar with this "Tornadic EGR cleaner" product called Dorothy by Pittsburgh Power with respect to a 2013 Maxxforce engine?

    Dorothy EGR

    Opinions appreciated & would LOVE to hear from someone that's actually using one and their experience with it...

    Thx!
     
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  3. Oct 31, 2018 #2
    Cattleman84

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    Havnt used one myself but I had a guy delivering to the plant I used to work at that had it on his truck, and he loved it. Said that when you emptied it out it looked like little pellets of soot. Not sure what engine he had though.
     
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  4. Nov 1, 2018 #3
    KB3MMX

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    Total gimmick..... Very expensive one too.


    There are other solutions that are much better
     
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    Care to share?
     
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  7. Nov 1, 2018 #5
    JonJon78

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    Please explain.....
     
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  8. Nov 1, 2018 #6
    q258

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    For example?
     
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  9. Nov 1, 2018 #7
    KB3MMX

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    They don't allow you to talk about the other "options" on this site....
    ( Censoring)

    The biggest killer to that Mann diesel is the poorly designed, undersized emissions components. The EGR cracking issued are caused by required flow rates being way too high causing large heat cycles and metal fatigue.

    Adding the Dorothy device doesn't fix the biggest problem. This can all be fixed through software and or components.... I don't see anyone offering a larger egr cooler yet though..

    They are actually a VERY robust motor minus the garbage engineered emissions system...


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  10. Nov 1, 2018 #8
    q258

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    Are you referring to EGR Delete when you say "fixed through software"? I've heard about this but, isn't that illegal to run without that? And what components? If we can't talk about it here where/how can we discuss this in more detail?
     
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    KB3MMX

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    Doesn't have to be deleted, the flow rate just needs reduced. On a 11+ truck, the DEF consumption will go up a little to compensate.

    A huge part of the truck is in the software... How it runs, how durable it is and how much MPG you'll get.... You can vary it widely..

    Yes it's illegal to run without a cooler in place, I wouldn't recommend that.
     
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  12. Nov 1, 2018 #10
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    OK, so are these features accessible through end-user software? If so which software packages? It's my understanding that a lot of the software features are divided into different security levels many of which are only available to authorized International techs/dealers. And beyond that, how can I even search out a tech savvy enough to know exactly what needs to be altered in the software. This truck has been in and out of MANY 'International Dealers' around the country and so far it's been my experience that's it's real hit/miss as to how experienced they are with this particular motor. In fact about the only constant so far is that most mechanics hate working on it, lol.
     
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