Thanks, I had a feeling it was illegal. I just wasn't 100% sure. Thanks for the advice, I'm going to tell my company its a no go from now on.
Question about Canada-US work.
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Canadianhauler21, Nov 8, 2018.
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The only work I did inside Canada is to clear Winsdor or Toronto Customs inbound load, deliver, come out empty.
YOU as a Canadian Trucker can come here deliver and go back empty or with possibly company property in a company trailer for instance.
I don't know enough about this subject to offer anything else that's useful. One thing I hate in our Laws is that when you pull a statue out of the books saying this or that, and there are going to be 10 more following it making it a Gordon Knot.Canadianhauler21, AModelCat and laaylor Thank this. -
US to US drop, hook or delivery is illegal for a Canadian. Whatever you do after your first delivery in the US has to come out of the US. I'm really surprised the CBSA hasn't nailed you yet. Staying in Michigan for more than a day or two from Southern Ontario would be a huge red flag for them, they should start asking questions.
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Basically, Custom's rules apply to the equipment and goods, and Immigration's rules apply to the people. So the problem is that you can be in adherence with Custom's rules (repositioning, etc.), but be in violation of Immigration's rules at the same time. It gets further muddled because in the past Customs put out literature stating what their rules were, but there was no mention of the potential violation of Immigration's rules. They did relax some of the rules regarding repositioning, exchanging trailers and forward moves, but it is still messy.BigHossVolvo, homeskillet, upnorthwpg and 3 others Thank this. -
I just went through this exact same thing, I took a load to Reno NV low on hours. Delivered, Reloaded (at the same place in the same dock) went to a truck stop and switched with one of our team trucks, that was coming out of California (They were empty). I took their empty back to Reno NV to the same shipper, loaded and headed for Canada (at this point my re-caps kicked in). When my company asked CBP/US Labour for a clarification to make sure this was ok. It's Like gokiddogo said, you are allowed one empty re-position/switch, and both loads must be returning to Canada with no US deliveries or further re-positions. Even if the empty you re-position is going to be loaded, and then make a US delivery after you're long gone; it is not allowed.Canadianhauler21 Thanks this. -
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That's what I got printed out from one of our instructors from Driver Development after i had a discussion with my fleet manager.
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