Enddump

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by K9guy, Nov 19, 2018.

  1. Trashtrucker1707

    Trashtrucker1707 Road Train Member

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    IMG_0836.JPG @MartinFromBC end dumps are absolutely not one of the easiest jobs out there, it takes a lot of skill and a lot of nerve to do it safely and do it profitably, the day you think dumping a frameless is a walk in the park is the day you're going on your side.

    On another note, and this will make sense in time, but like another poster stated try to dump with your trailer locked, and bring the tractor back to it, if you're on great ground and you know the load is moving good it's ok to bring the trailer to you, but if you're unsure it's better to have the trailer locked and have the tractor free, god forbid you start to go over you can bring the trailer down and the tractor will push out, but if you're bringing the trailer to you and it starts to fall or feel funny and you think putting the trailer down is going to save you, it won't, you're only going to push the trailer back in the load and you run a greater risk of falling.

    It's a lot to take in, but ask questions and take your time.
     
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  3. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    Maybe you and I are using the same name, to describe two different things then. I often start new hires on end dump, then they can work up to eventually pulling fuel, and if they do great there, may get trained to heavy haul equipment. So i think that we are not discussing the same thing. My end dumps usually haul into larger construction projects with room for them, or stock pile crush, or lime rock etc. In winter are good for snow hauling to.
     
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  4. Nothereoften

    Nothereoften Light Load Member

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    If you have the room why end dump and not side dump? For dumps I've only used truck and pup
     
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  5. MartinFromBC

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    I don't own a side dump, nor have I used one. Seems I get lots of work for the end dump, and its versatile for so many jobs. Truck and tri axle pup is great for tighter areas, and lots of jobs as well, but they are also more challenging to drive than the end dumps are. They get sent to tougher jobs, and into mud pits, etc. They are also more challenging to learn to back up for a proper truck dump in the exact spot, since they have to be jackknifed perfectly to hit that spot with the trucks box. For those tight or tough jobs we don't send the end dumps to them. Practice on the end dumps, then graduate up to the gravel trucks once good enough. Usually if i want a nice relaxing day and we have work for the end dump that needs doing, I'll bump a driver and do it myself, as its a refreshing change occasionally from the tougher jobs. That said the easiest jobs ever around here are hauling snow, scoop a night shift, snow haul, in the end dump, that is the gravy job right there. Call me weird, but i like hauling snow at night, barely any traffic, and so brain dead simple to do. Since I own the joint, i get to choose first and so i scoop the end dump myself, or else run loader. Now if i could get that work year round it would be perfect.
     
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  6. abyliks

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    Unless your in the first few stages and know from the start your ####ed up, your usually better to smash the pedal and get the load to break out of the nose, especially if you know your level, yes triaxle and short trailers are pretty brainless, but the 36+’ frameless start going into a harder catagory, especially when you start getting into haz Mat and crossing boarders
     
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  7. REO6205

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    One thing to watch out for on end dumps is dumping alongside another truck. Sometimes on big jobs with lots of trucks the dump boss will try to get four or five trucks dumping at the same time. Don't do it ! If one trailer tips over and hits the one next to it they'll all go over like dominoes. I've only seen this once but four end dumps laying on the ground at once isn't a pretty sight.
    Always keep at least one trailer length...two is better...from the truck dumping next to you. That also goes for construction equipment, pickups, work crews, occupied dwellings, whatever.
    If the dump boss threatens to sign you out for not dumping the way he wants, and the way he wants is dangerous, take the sign out. It's better than a wrecked trailer.
     
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  8. MartinFromBC

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    I will someday buy a 3rd end dump to add to the two I have. No we don't cross the border with them, or haul hazmat. Asphalt, gravel, salt, snow, garbage dump runs, even hired a couple of times to haul cedar blocks of wood to a guys yard, he was going to use to make cedar shakes. Always seems to be lots of work for them, one has been hauling salt daily for the last month or so. They wanted to hire both of mine to haul salt, but the other has been running nonstop for about 9 or 10 weeks now stock piling crush for another business we do work for annually. Hopefully this winter I can find a good used Midland or Canuck tri axle end dump for sale. I finally bought more trucks to pull trailers with, and sometimes hire and O/O to pull my end dumps when i run out of trucks and drivers.
     
  9. K9guy

    K9guy Bobtail Member

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    U need a driver?
     
  10. blade

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    From the way it sounds I may be wrong but are you running framed dumps? I’ve never hauled fuel ran tack truck when I was local but it had no surge. I’ve done open deck most of my 13 years and other than permits heavy haul is way easier and a heck of a lot safer. I’ve never pulled any trailer that required as much attention as a end dump. There too heavy and every dump is a chance to tip!
     
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  11. blade

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    That spot mirror can’t be much of any use in its current position. On another note the Mac is looking clean. Did your company remove the front steps?? I need to add a shovel holder might do that tomorrow while at the trailer shop.
     
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