70 hour rule - help settle an argument

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Jinx, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Why do you believe that someone has to be relieved of all duties to the truck to take a 34?

    If you are able to take the 10 hour break under a load, you can continue the same way under a 34.
     
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  3. lostNfound

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    You were doing good up until the bolded part. There is no requirement to be relieved while taking a 34-hour reset.
     
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  4. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

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    Teams routinely use the sleeper berth in conjunction with off duty time to obtain the 34 hour reset. This permits a team to take 24 hours off, combine it with a 10 hour sleeper berth break, and voila! a legit 34 hour reset!

    Another example would be; A solo driver could have a load that delivers on a Monday and parks at a local truck stop over the weekend. The driver is under a load, uses the sleeper berth nightly, and logs the rest of the time off duty. This also qualifies as a legit 34 hour reset provided the driver did NOT log any on duty time as in pre-trips, fueling, or drive time.

    Roadmedic and LostNfound are correct.
     
  5. StruckANerve

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    To the best of my knowledge, it's like this. Can't drive past 11 hours, cant work period after 14 hours WITHOUT 10 or more hours off before hand. If you get to your 70 hours total on or before your 7th day, you HAVE to reset, because you wont gain enough hours to work the 8th day (today). On Duty time does count towards the total 70 worked. When you ad up your hours it asks you "Total time on duty, lines 3&4" If you work your hours right to use up your 70 (or less) in 8 days, then midnight of the 8th day gives you back your hours from the first day (plus left over hours, if any) and you dont have to use the reset. So interpreting it like that, Hubby is RIGHT. You have to go off duty or in to a sleeper at the end of your 70 hours or you are over hours. You can resume at midnight when you regain hours, unless there hasnt been 10 consecutive hours off in the meantime. If you want to restart ENTIRELY your 70 hour clock, then you are required to take the 34 hour restart.

    Anyone confirm or deny?
     
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  6. RickG

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    This is why .
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...kKey=0901633480023971&keyword=duty definition

    You must be off duty 34 consecutive hours . If you resume any responsibility during that time it interrupts the restart .
     
  7. DBL_TIME

    DBL_TIME <strong>"Two Mints in One"</strong>

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    WRONG!
    You can work 24hrs or whatever if needed. You can't drive more than 11hrs or past the 14th hr.
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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  9. Powder Joints

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    Your making this way too complicated, it is not that tough. For instants if your are off duty, and you get into the sleeper you dont need to show it if you do not care too, off duty can cover sleeper time also. But not the other way around. So as far as the 34 hours is concerned you can log the entire 34 hours off duty, even if part of the time was spent in the sleeper. Why someone would not use the restart I dont understand. But keep it simple.
     
  10. StruckANerve

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    UPDATED:

    To the best of my knowledge, it's like this. Can't drive MORE then 11 hours total within 14 hours, or cant drive at all AFTER being on duty 14 hours (if you haven't hit the 11 hour limit) WITHOUT 10 or more hours off before hand. If you get to your 70 hours total on or before your 7th day, you HAVE to reset, because you wont gain enough hours to work the 8th day (today). If you work your hours right to use up your 70 (or less) in 8 days, then midnight of the 8th day gives you back your hours from the first day (plus left over hours, if any) and you dont have to use the reset. You can resume at midnight when you regain hours, unless there hasnt been 10 consecutive hours off in the meantime. If you want to restart ENTIRELY your 70 hour clock, then you are required to take the 34 hour restart.

    Is this better? (said with zero attitude, just trying to understand the correct rule)
     
  11. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    You can be relieved of duty by your employer when you stop for the night. You can also combine sleeper berth time with off duty time to get your 10 . We have a statement in our employee manual saying we can log off duty at a customer if we leave the truck with the customer's consent , we leave the keys in the truck , and there is someone capable of moving the truck in an emergency . I do this often when a customer unloads hazmat that requires unloaders to wear chemical suits and I am not allowed to stay with the truck .
     
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