Other truck drivers are buying beer, should I report them?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by IluvCATS, Dec 16, 2018.

  1. bzinger

    bzinger Road Train Member

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    I knew one of you guys would be along , surprised it took this long and yep I'm also surprised the FBI didn't show up .
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    The only part of the rules that cover alcohol is pasted below. I underlined the main part. It is my opinion this part does not apply to off-duty use while on private property. BTW I don't respond well to demands.



    §392.5 Alcohol prohibition.
    (a) No driver shall—

    (1) Use alcohol, as defined in §382.107 of this subchapter, or be under the influence of alcohol, within 4 hours before going on duty or operating, or having physical control of, a commercial motor vehicle; or

    (2) Use alcohol, be under the influence of alcohol, or have any measured alcohol concentration or detected presence of alcohol, while on duty, or operating, or in physical control of a commercial motor vehicle; or

    (3) Be on duty or operate a commercial motor vehicle while the driver possesses wine of not less than one-half of one per centum of alcohol by volume, beer as defined in 26 U.S.C. 5052(a), of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954, or distilled spirits as defined in section 5002(a)(8), of such Code. However, this does not apply to possession of wine, beer, or distilled spirits which are:

    (i) Manifested and transported as part of a shipment; or

    (ii) Possessed or used by bus passengers.

    (b) No motor carrier shall require or permit a driver to—

    (1) Violate any provision of paragraph (a) of this section; or

    (2) Be on duty or operate a commercial motor vehicle if, by the driver's general appearance or conduct or by other substantiating evidence, the driver appears to have used alcohol within the preceding four hours.

    (c) Any driver who is found to be in violation of the provisons of paragraph (a) or (b) of this section shall be placed out-of-service immediately for a period of 24 hours.

    (1) The 24-hour out-of-service period will commence upon issuance of an out-of-service order.

    (2) No driver shall violate the terms of an out-of-service order issued under this section.

    (d) Any driver who is issued an out-of-service order under this section shall:

    (1) Report such issuance to his/her employer within 24 hours; and

    (2) Report such issuance to a State official, designated by the State which issued his/her driver's license, within 30 days unless the driver chooses to request a review of the order. In this case, the driver shall report the order to the State official within 30 days of an affirmation of the order by either the Division Administrator or State Director for the geographical area or the Administrator.

    (e) Any driver who is subject to an out-of-service order under this section may petition for review of that order by submitting a petition for review in writing within 10 days of the issuance of the order to the Division Administrator or State Director for the geographical area in which the order was issued. The Division Administrator or State Director may affirm or reverse the order. Any driver adversely affected by such order of the Regional Director of Motor Carriers may petition the Administrator for review in accordance with 49 CFR 386.13.

    (49 U.S.C. 304, 1655; 49 CFR 1.48(b) and 301.60)

    [47 FR 47837, Oct. 28, 1982, as amended at 52 FR 27201, July 20, 1987; 59 FR 7515, Feb. 15, 1994; 61 FR 9567, Mar. 8, 1996; 79 FR 59457, Oct. 2, 2014]
     
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  4. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    You would be wrong about that from what I've been told by officers.
     
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  5. CK73

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    The only problem i have with drinking in the truck off duty is the small possibility of having to move the truck in an emergency.

    What if your truck or one nearby catches fire? Truck or trailer hit by another truck and needs repair?

    When i need to drink and am not on hometime.. I rent a motel. If you cant afford a motel.. You cant afford to drink IMO.
     
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  6. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    The main problem I always had was alcohol is a diuretic. This was why I saved my drinking for hometime or as you stated get in a hotel. Cola will do this too.
     
  7. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    I agree with you on that for the most part, but I'm not going to call the cops on somebody who has a couple before going to bed, because at that that they're not breaking any laws. In South Dakota at least you can be drunk as a sailor and still drive around on private property without getting in any trouble, least from what I've been told by one deputy.
     
  8. TIMPTE 527

    TIMPTE 527 Medium Load Member

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    I wouldn't call either. I could care less. I just don't believe an LEO got a call that a "truck driver" was seen with alcohol in his possession in a "commercial" vehicle and when the officer showed up he said "are you drinking?" trucker says "YEP" and officer says "oh ok have a good one" Yeah right B.S. Why would the officer even show up if it wasn't a problem. Why wouldn't they respond to the RAT (schneider driver) by saying "SO WHAT"
     
  9. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    I believe they'd show up, if you're sitting in the driver's seat getting ready to go they're going to have an issue, as soon as he saw they were in the sleeper, by all appearances going to stay there for the night, no longer any problem.
     
  10. JC1971

    JC1971 Road Train Member

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    I've been in western Oklahoma near the Texas border during fire weather when a fire actually crossed I-40 and shut it down. There were several other fires burning in the area, also. It wouldn't have been outside the realm of impossibility that everyone in the truck stop could have been woken up in the middle of the night and told to evacuate immediately.
     
  11. Rideandrepair

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