Interstate vs Intrastate Commerce

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Swadian, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    or crossed...intrastate shipment of interstate freight...like a chemical that was shipped interstate to a tank farm for storage then the intrastate final delivery is still considered interstate commerce.

    this was very important back when the state PUC's held sway over entry to a state's intrastate commerce...
     
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  3. Allow Me.

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    Question …..If 35 people boarded in Reno on your Phoenix bound bus, and all 35 got off in Vegas, would you turn around and head back to Reno or, continue on to Phoenix empty because most bus routes are regulated which means the bus goes whether or not it's empty. Just curious. Yes I'm aware that there may be passengers waiting in Phx to return, but what if there were no ticket sales from Phx ?
     
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  4. Swadian

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    The bus would continue to Phoenix, because my route is going to Phoenix and I only do regular route service. Though no sales from Phoenix is pretty much impossible since Phoenix is by far the biggest city on my route. So it would always be interstate commerce.

    OK, that clears it up. So this is interstate commerce and not also intrastate commerce. Then that's why Greyhound didn't get a license for the Reno - Denver.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

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    That bus would be expected to get to Phoenix. It would not be profitable but hopefully you fill it up with the freight er.. people.

    As far as I am concerned I have ridden my last greyhound decades ago. every time I ride those #### things I cannot sleep decent monitoring the engine RPM's braking, shifting and suspension action. If the bus driver is a former trucker and holds one RPM for hundreds of miles I might sleep then. Maybe.
     
  6. Bean Jr.

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    Talk about the shame train!
     
  7. Swadian

    Swadian Light Load Member

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    @x1Heavy, I tried to quote you but it wouldn't let me for some reason.

    Well, my partner was a truck driver but he lost his medical card. These days most buses have 6-speed auto transmissions with OD and cruise control. Maybe the ride will be better on cruise control? If you ask me I say 95% of the buses on the road are junk. The old GMs and MCIs were good, but the new stuff is all junk. But my run is all daytime so dunno why people sleepin'. o_O

    If you gimme some advice on holding RPM I'll take it.
     
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  8. x1Heavy

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    Some of the buses date to the early 70's the old Fixits for downtown or aka fishbowl. To me that was a good bus we had as long you stayed about a row behind the steers.

    We had taken a number of charters into St Michaels and so on over the bay in airride buses I think Prevost comes to mind among others. Once or twice we were truly blessed with a full on luxury bus in school for downtown DC instead of a rattletrap school bus. I still remember those trips to this day.

    I don't know about the cruise etc in buses. All I know is that if the driver had a squared heel boot and able to notch it just so against the hammer and hold more or less a constant engine behavior it's really soothing to me as a passenger.

    Fast forward to the newer sleeper long haul buses, those are attractive provided they keep up the laundry, eliminate pests and disinfect after every run. If they don't I'll do it with my own sleeper set.

    I don't recall any problems with the website between you and me should be able to do whatever you wish in terms of quoting etc. I do keep a list of ignored people, but you are not one of them.
     
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  9. Bean Jr.

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    Since it was introduced in 1987, the series 60 was the prime mover of virtually every bus made in North America. While I suppose it is possible, I can't imagine there are too many buses older than 32 years old in commercial operation, meaning virtually every commercial bus has cruise control.
     
  10. Swadian

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    Fixit I think you mean Flxible New Looks. The GM Fishbowl was its main competitor. Both powered by 6V71N, but other engines were available.

    Prevost nice coach most of the time, though the lights on the bottom of the parcel racks like to warp. MCI more durable, though they're all the same now. Fiberglass coaches like H3-45 (Volvo D13) or J4500 (DD13) tend to be better in Canada or the Salt Belt. Lots of the newer buses are overrated junk, especially the Euro ones.

    Don't see sleeper buses too often. Not many of these here in the US. Very common in Japan or Mexico. The worst part about foreign buses is their stupid high mirrors coming down from the roof like rabbit ears. Some like 'em, I hate 'em. Anyway, I fixed the quoting. :)

    The Series 60 wasn't introduced until the 102DL3 in 1992. Before that most coaches used the 6V92TA or 8V92TA. Before that 8V71N. Even after Series 60 entered the market it was only for motorcoaches; transit buses used the Series 50 or Cummins L10. Some motorcoaches came with CAT C10 or Cummins M11. Later after 2003 they started coming with C13 ACERT or ISM; transit buses C9 ACERT or ISL9.

    Greyhound Canada ordered the C10 in their 1996-1997 102DL3s, deployed in Vancouver for their BC/AB/YT pool (Alaska Highway). Those had the Fuller TX-14607B 7-speed manual transmission. I think some of their 1998s also came with the C10, though those had the B500 6-speed auto.

    After Series 60 went out in 2010 motorcoaches have been available with DD13, D13, or ISX12. Transit buses now ubiquitously have the Cummins L9.
     
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  11. Bean Jr.

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    Seeing as we were talking about cruise control, I wasn't really considering transit buses.
     
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