Failed my in-cab today. Can't figure out why...

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by VinnyVincent, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Hold comments. only announce what is required, like starting the leak down test Im a 120 psi and the governor has shut off. I would not mention words like "now its safe to drive". Keep it to the minimum and only announce the required, like the low air warning or the brakes setting at the required pressure. Same with in cab inspection, name everything, mirrors, rt, lft, spot, hood, windows, windshield, gauges, seat belts and don't stop tell they tell you to move on. Everything by there instruction or approval, "I'am going to start the brake testing withjyour approval". let them be in control or at least think they are.

    Good luck, most new drivers talk too much during the testing, they are not your bud's, they are looking to fail you. Kind of like talking to a cop, hes only talking to do bad not good, look at the examiner the same way, keep it to a minimum.
     
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  3. Cam Roberts

    Cam Roberts Road Train Member

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    Whatever the reason may be, the part about “it’s safe to drive after 100 psi” could have been left out on your part. Hell some mornings I let my air build up to 60psi where I can disengage parking brake and take off. But for you, you should have not offfered insight and just let the air build up all the way. If the examiner understands why you are waiting to proceed, they would give you the go ahead to proceed without waiting. And that goes for anything in the test. But for you to lecture the examiner that is safe to go even if the book says so, that is just something that should be kept to yourself. Next time do everything to the max and their won’t be a problem.
     
  4. SidewaysBentHalo

    SidewaysBentHalo Medium Load Member

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    Add in: hands off the wheel And the truck and trailer came to a complete stop. (At least thats what we were told.)
     
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  5. SidewaysBentHalo

    SidewaysBentHalo Medium Load Member

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    When i was in college the instructors stressed this is an automatic failure just as much as not putting it in gear before you release the brakes to do the checks, or skipping over items like fire extinguisher, seatbelt, triangles and fuses.

    I wasnt there but it seems she let you ‘do over’ that part once you realized the buzzer didnt come on if you already started the pump down.

    Technically the tester is right. It was during you airing the system back up you had failed. Possibly why she answered her phone as well. Not exactly professional but the test was done.
     
  6. VinnyVincent

    VinnyVincent Light Load Member

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    I keep thinking back and I think maybe she just misunderstood me when I said it was going to build between 85-100psi in 45 seconds and that it was safe to drive at 100psi. It was technically correct, I checked the state manual and it says "once the air pressure has built to at least 100psi, it is safe to drive"..but I think maybe she though I was saying the cut out was at 100psi. You're right it was probably just too much info/overly cautious of me.
     
  7. VinnyVincent

    VinnyVincent Light Load Member

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    Also as I was going back over the state manual, I notice it mentions "with the engine idling, check the cut out AND CUT IN on the governor". I never did that part. I'm also going to make sure I test both the cut in and cut out with the engine idling.
     
  8. VinnyVincent

    VinnyVincent Light Load Member

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    The only other thing I can think of has to do with when I didn't have the accessories turned on at first. The manual says to "begin the air leakage rate test with a fully charged air system" which I did, you don't need the accessories on for the gauges to work.
    It wasn't until I tested the buzzer that I noticed the accessories weren't on. Under the buzzer section it says "shut the engine off when you have enough pressure so that the low pressure warning light is not on." which I did. I turned the engine back on and let it build until the light turned off. I think she was looking for me to fully charge it again to do the buzzer test, based on the way she was hinting around to me after she said I failed.

    I get it, the whole accessory mistake was a little sloppy and shes looking for perfection. It's all good I'll make sure to do it extra perfect for her next time lol
     
  9. GettingRolling

    GettingRolling Light Load Member

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    A few people at my school began their brake tests (static, applied, and fanning down) with the key off and pretty much if you touch the pedal with the key off you fail the in cab
     
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  10. KillingTime

    KillingTime Road Train Member

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    I'll bet it was your hair.
    I'd have failed you for loving the '80's era Glam Rock too.
     
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  11. Bill51

    Bill51 Road Train Member

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    Tight leather pants probably didn't help.
     
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