If you make $40k as an O/O, you have to pay 10k in federal income tax?

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  1. Waterfowler

    Waterfowler Bobtail Member

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    I went to H&R block today and had my taxes started. The result was just under a 41k net income but the guy says I owe 10k in federal income tax. Is that about right? I set aside $7k and the extra $3k isn't going to kill me, I will just take it out of the down payment I was going to put on a house or put it on one my credit cards which I just payed down to zero balances. So if this is about right I don't mind paying it but it just seems a little too much.


    I didn't finalize anything with H&R, I still need to give them some more deductions like the financing charges on my truck, etc. They also didn't charge me anything, they said I could pay when my taxes were actually filed so I am thinking about just going with a real accountant and telling them to forget about it and not file my taxes with them after all. I called ahead of time to make an appointment and told them I was a truck driver and needed someone who knows the profession to which the lady assured me that all the agents there were trained to be able to handle trucker's taxes. But the agent I dealt with didn't really seem too familiar with the trucking industry and informed me halfway that he had only done 2 other truck drivers. Whether it was this year or his whole life I don't know. :biggrin_25511:

    This my first full year as an O/O so don't rag me too hard about my ignorance or going with H&R Block(the voice in the back of my head was telling me to take it to a real pro accountant).
     
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  3. Roadmedic

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    I doubt that it was just 10,000 in income tax. There would have been self employment taxes and they would have a major impact on the tax total.

    Some preparers always refer to the combined amounts as income tax.
     
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  4. Waterfowler

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    You are absolutely right. The 10k was self-employment and Federal taxes.
     
  5. broncrider

    broncrider Road Train Member

    to start.....get a real accountant, theres a firm up in denver who i hear are good...and what you pay them is a deduction next year!
    get your own personal accountant, one who knows YOU, not someone who you just met

    next gather up all reciepts (you do keep them all right?)
    go thru your logs, different cities have different rates of per diem...it adds up to a good sum
    all interest, depreciation and down payments are deductible
    you can even deduct your home office!
    cell phone (used for business), landline and faxes....
    fuel, repairs, parts, hotels, tolls and any other "trucking" expence...all deductable

    now some bad news....if you owe now i assume you probally didnt make your quarterly "estimetes"...your now gonna owe late charges

    the time to get prepared is not the time they are due

    or get in touch with roadmedic....hes an accountant on the side and he might know someone to refer you too


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  6. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    i have been using the "blockheads" for at least 10 yrs now.
    last year i had the owner of that particular franchise do my taxes, she knew her stuff! this year someone else did them (with help from a colleague) they kept refering to the tax code book LOL
    although, as a Co. driver i have FAR less reciepts ETC to sort through)
     
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  7. MuddyWaters

    MuddyWaters Light Load Member

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    My wife has an accounting degree and she does taxes part time for a local Tax Prep. business during tax season. They have ONE GUY in their office of 6 preparers that specializes in Trucker's returns. She does not like doing them because she knows that a person doing these needs to know their stuff!

    You would be amazed at the amount of drivers(and others) that end up here after having H&R Block do their stuff. Just because they have a big name does not mean they're any good. If your gut was telling you that the lady was not too familiar, you should trust your judgement. Dig around a find a PROVEN tax person that knows their stuff about driver's returns. That's my 2 cents. Good luck.
     
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  8. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    BTW, you can go to google "daveramsey" and click on "endorsed local provider" for CPA's to find a good one reccomended by dave:yes2557:
     
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  9. Waterfowler

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    I am able to pay the entire amount now. Am I going to have to pay additional late charges or was there a lot of late charges included in the 10k I owe. And I am not really interested in lowering my net income too much more because I plan on buying a house and need a decent income in order to get lending.

    So assuming that the 41k net income is correct, is 10k the right amount to pay in self-employment and federal income tax?
     
  10. Roadmedic

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    Seems wrong to pay any tax that is not required whether trying to buy a house or not.

    The bank needs to understand the per diem deduction and should be well versed on depreciation costs. These two items are considered non cash expenses on the profit and loss and are to be added to the profit.

    In a down year like the last one, they should also understand the business fluctuations.

    As far as whether it is the right amount, too many variables.

    Do not know if you are married or single.

    WIthout looking at a tax return, I do not comment on another person's work.
     
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  11. Waterfowler

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    True but I have plenty of money in the bank and would like to be able to jump on a house without having to worry about a lender being hesitant about my income. Houses around here are close between half and a third of their peak values and at the auctions some of the BRAND NEW houses that they built out in the boondocks that were going for $250k are being sold for $40-$60k simply because the banks and home sellers are tired of having to fix them when they get vandalized.





    Single, no dependents, not an HOH. That help at all?
     
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