Horrible crash in Lakewood CO, I70 closed both directions. 12 vehicles 4 semi huge fire

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  1. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    LMAO2.
    Most everyone I have ever met has gotten wiser and more mature as they’ve got older.
    But you think it would be a good idea to send a 15 year old by themself across country in a semi.
     
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  3. Cattleman84

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    Not all of them for sure... But I have known 1 or 2 that I think could have done it without much trouble... But they were FAR from the normal teen... The one had been supporting himself since he was 13 working as a ranch hand... By the time he was 18 he owned his own tiny house, paid for in cash!
     
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  4. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    If the minimum age was 26 then this accident wouldn’t have happened and those people would still be alive.
     
  5. Cattleman84

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    That may be true... But if the minimum age was 40 and the maximum 45 even less accidents would happen and even more people would still be alive... Where do you draw the line?
     
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  6. tucker

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    26.
    You’re just spewing nonsense.
     
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  7. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Let me guess, that's when you got yours and there's nobody in the world could do anything, any better, or any sooner than you?
     
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  8. Cattleman84

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    Yes I am spewing nonsense... To make a point... In a few weeks or days, or months some 30 or 40 something year old will do something incredibly stupid that could have very easily have been avoided if they had used their head alittle better. And someone will be able to make a similar comment about minimum age. I do agree that drivers over 26 tend to be better safer drivers... But anyone of any age can do something incredibly stupid.
     
  9. starmac

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    This is the very definition of spewing nonsense.
    You have no way possible of knowing this to be true, so anything you say at all is now irrelevant as far as I am concerned.
     
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  10. x1Heavy

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    My first employer says no hazmat until 25. When you stand in a yard full of gasoline tankers lined up like fat pigs in a trough and understand just what a ocean of the stuff is here...

    The age thing is a side show. In the population we always in every occupation some sort of idiot who should never had done this or that at whatever age. Only in the US Government Civil Service would such a Savant be allowed to remain in a position of incompetence. While others correct the screwups or mistakes etc.

    When I was younger truckers were heros kings of the road. Something to look up to. Not everyone got to be one which was a reverse of what I see today. The flip flops and the BS stories at the lunch counter don't match the reality out there. I would be hard pressed to come up with such a wild tale.

    The Nut that shot up the theater carefully purchased police gear on the open market so when he left the theater into the horde of police responding he had one piece of kit that never was a police issued kit. A 100 round see through magazine coil where you can shoot forever and ever. Only it jammed inside the theater. It was revealed by one of the Police Ranked Officers a few days in the media and a few weeks later as more information came out as to what the shooter had on him it was put together. It's not difficult.

    When I took the road test with FFE there was 4 of us. The black tester (Race does not matter, he just happened to be one and made a impression as a professional) ran us through the process. I was number three of the group and put that truck onto I-35 south in a workman like manner without too much trouble into a horde of rush traffic intent on not giving me a inch. I did not give them a inch either. And stopped the truck where I was told. No arguments. The number four guy was younger, he tried to showboat and imitate the somewhat strong performance I had done and not very well. He got it back to the yard. The rest of us was told out. He was told put her into this spot with the trailer.

    What did the young one do? Ram the trailer back in top RPM ROOOAARRR.

    Well the Top Bull roared at him telling him to pack his #### and get on the bus within the hour. And the kid was gone within the hour.

    There was three of us who will have jobs. One was shaky but evidently showing a desire to learn. So no issue with him going out with a finisher for a few weeks. I was given a tractor later that week and loaded.. The other one was about the same.

    In Covenant at Little Rock I was not far from their training school area or orientation area where in the summer heat I watched 5 take turns pulling up at a dead idle 100 feet and then backing a bit to the dock already straight. A hour and half of that went by and they stopped to sit around and BS and smoke until lunch.

    This was about 2001. IF the training has degenerated that badly where they are not putting in the work, God help Covenant and the rest of the Industry, never mind my own feelings for them. Supervisor? Nope he set them to work and went inside for a meeting that seems endless in the corporate tower. Eventually when the master isnt around to crack the whip the little ones quit the work and went to pass the time away. All they wanted was a solo truck. Period. Everything else was just something to be endured quietly until they are handed the keys. Basically BS.

    So there was no attention from the trainers, teachers etc and there was no desire among the students towards the staff to learn or evolve. They are there with one thought. Give me a truck so I can make 2000 a week on 700 miles with no manual labor. HA. The talk that they had was essentially spending the tens or millions of dollars maintaining estates worthy of any southern Plantation with a bunch of people at their beck and call 10 years from then. Such fantasies. What a waste. Half were not really interested in being truckers as we understand it. They are there to make a stack (Money) and get out to do something else like making music or some such activity not essential to society but services their own self interest.

    I think I said enough. I have not started to open fire with both barrels on the equally lazy outlook by companies intent on cutting costs for the year. If trucking was so unprofitable, why are they continuing to bang their heads against the wall financially? What a waste.

    No wonder this industry does not enjoy a goodwill with the public, half of wish would love to be accidentally or deliberately hit so they can trade out their clunker and get into a Escalade or something stupid.
     
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    The driver, through an interpreter, told officials that he lost his brakes and was doing 85 mph when he hit.
     
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