Consequences for First HOS Violation

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Bobcat13, May 13, 2019.

  1. Bobcat13

    Bobcat13 Bobtail Member

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    I thought about using PC, but isn’t part of PC that you can’t use it to advance your day? I guess if someone wanted to get technical they could say I was advancing my day since I was going to the customer, even though it was just right across the street.
     
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  3. Truckermania

    Truckermania Road Train Member

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    You were not advancing your day unless you already knew that customer was where you were picking up at next.
     
  4. Mid-May Trucker

    Mid-May Trucker Road Train Member

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    1. If you're company gets mad at you for that, quit.
    2. If you get a ticket for that, quit.
     
  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Read the op's original post. He was going to the customer. Sounds like a loaded tanker to me, although I will admit he never specified if he was doing a pickup or delivery. He was advancing a load though, so no PC would not be valid. That and other reasons.
     
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  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Why quit? What does the company have to do with a ticket?
     
  7. Truckermania

    Truckermania Road Train Member

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    Gotcha. For some reason I was thinking he had Just delivered at that customer.
     
  8. chickentanker

    chickentanker Bobtail Member

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    I'm the safety/compliance guy at our little trucking company. I tell my guys they can only use PC if they are in search of a place to take their 10, whether it's at a customer or just a safe place for the break. That's the defining rule here for using PC, especially under a load..
     
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  9. Mid-May Trucker

    Mid-May Trucker Road Train Member

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    You don't have to worry about quitting because you won't get a ticket for that.
     
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  10. Accidental Trucker

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    Incorrect, you may use PC even if you are advancing the load: AS LONG AS YOU GO TO THE NEAREST SAFE PARKING. Since the OP essentially went across the street, it is hard to argue that he passed up other safe parking to advance the load.
     
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  11. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Sorry, I'm correct. The guidelines specifically state from a shipper/receiver. He was going from a truck stop TO a shipper/receiver. (Or direction of LEO) Here is the text from Personal Conveyance

    3. Time spent traveling to a nearby, reasonable, safe location to obtain required rest after loading or unloading. The time driving under personal conveyance must allow the driver adequate time to obtain the required rest in accordance with minimum off-duty periods under 49 CFR 395.3(a)(1) (property-carrying vehicles) or 395.5(a) (passenger-carrying vehicles) before returning to on-duty driving, and the resting location must be the first such location reasonably available.

    Now will the driver get a ticket for this? Extremely unlikely unless he ticks off the LEO, and then he's getting a ticket no matter what....
    But to say it's within the guidelines is wrong.
     
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