Cat running rough, air in fuel line..

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  1. kwforage

    kwforage Road Train Member

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    Well, my truck has been sitting for the last five months, and I've been getting the itch to start her up and get her ready for spring. I started her up today and it ran really rough, would not even smooth out after it came up to temp. I shut it off and pulled the fuel filter. It was only half full. I filled it up and primed it, it started and still ran rough. Pulled filter again, and it was only half full again. Filled a new filter and primed it again, and this time it would not start at all. I used ether to start it, and while it was idling I backed out the bolt on the primer a few turns to let it push the air out through there. It bubbled for atleast 5 minutes while the truck was idling. I figured this should have been plenty of time to bleed out any air, but it just kept bubbling. So, the truck will not start without ether, and when it does start it runs rough. Should I just get it started again and leave it idle as long as it takes with that bolt backed out alittle to bleed it out? Should it take more than a few minutes? I am thinking maybe I have a loose fitting or crack in a line where it is sucking air in. Does that sound right or could it be something totally different? Any advise is appreciated. This is not how I wanted to start this season off with my truck. It's a 3406 with mechanical pump by the way.
     
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  3. Les2

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    I'd check fuel pressure. Maybe the seals in the pump (the one under the fuel pump) went bad? Also make sure none of the lines are cracked and sucking air in.
     
  4. oneshot

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    I would also suggest instead of ether use WD 40. Works real good and want break your top ring. Just a thought. But I know this is going to sound strange, but a friend of mine with 6 trucks had the same thing happen on a 04 W9 that was running everyday. He found a big grubb worm in one of the fuel lines from the tank.Liked to have drove him crazy till he found it.I know. I said it was going to sound strange.:biggrin_25515:
     
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  5. DDS

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    You could also have a stuck fuel return check valve, resulting in low fuel pressure and no fuel pressure at cranking speed.
     
  6. kwforage

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    One other thing I noticed was when I primed it I could hear fuel running back into my tank. That's not normal is it?
     
  7. Les2

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    Yeah its gonna do that when you get the filters full. It's going back in thru the return line, well make sure its going back in that way.
     
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  8. kwforage

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    How do I fix a stuck check valve?
     
  9. DDS

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    When your pumping the habd primer is it getting hard to push? It should get to the point that you will have trouble screwing in the lock, your pushing against 80 to 90 psi. You can just replaced the check valve, about 40 bucks, part number 2812725 and 6V4589 seal. Remove the vale, it is in the filer base right below the return line, use a 1 inch wrench. If you can blow through it its, leaking.
     
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  10. kwforage

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    Yes, is does get hard to push the primer in.
     
  11. kwforage

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    From everyone that I have talked to they have said, bad check valve, air leak in fuel line, or dirty injector. One guy told me to fill the fuel filter with ATF and start it up to clean the injectors. Is this a good idea?
     
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