Help me understand some weight numbers?

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  1. 24kHotshot

    24kHotshot Heavy Load Member

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    Thanks for the explanation. I think I understand.
    I will be running interstate. I am not familiar with the FL process or offices yet. My new company is registered in FL but I haven't moved there yet. I'll be running down there with the truck and new trailer right after I pass my cdl and figure it out as I go by the end of the month.
    Kind of hard researching through google when you don't really know what you are searching for.

    I'm leasing onto a Chicago company (soon to also be a FL company) and insuring my truck, trailer and cargo through them while using their dot and mc #s.
     
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  3. npok

    npok Light Load Member

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    Those will be 6k rated axles, probably with 7k axles optional. He needs to get with the mfg & verify and make sure he gets 7k axles. I'd guess that 3k lbs on the axles would make a world of difference in loads he could scale.
     
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    24kHotshot Heavy Load Member

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    Triple 7s are stock actually. They say 18k is the load capacity with 25k gvwr. Trailer weighs 7860lbs
     
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    npok Light Load Member

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    10-4. I get it now. 18k payload.
     
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    singlescrewshaker Road Train Member

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    That's still a bit bizarre to me. The load capacity is still calculated incorrectly. 25,000 - 7860 & I get 17,140lbs for freight weight.. Appalachian should just sticker it for 25,990 & be done with it. Keeps you under FET tax & gives a few pounds extra..
     
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    They approximate which doesn't fill me with confidence that they don't approximate the build quality also. I really dont understand how they sticker it past the trailer's axle ratings. It has 21k worth of axle rating but sticker it for 25k. Anyway, after a lot of reading and talking to past appalachian owners I have decided to go for a different company.
    So I think I am settling on texas pride 4 car instead. For the same price you get bigger axles, 17.5 inch wheels with 16 ply tires, 6 feet longer and a solid warranty. I'm hoping the longer tail end behind the trailer wheels will help me shift the weight to the trailer more than the truck if I place a heavy vehicle on the back.
     
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    singlescrewshaker Road Train Member

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    You should be fine. 1,000's of duallys running around pulling 4car rigs. Some cowboys even doing 5 car mini's. o_O I don't like it, but to each their own..

    What's your rear rated at, 9,900lbs or so? Mine was 9350 & I was able to stay within that on 95% of loads pulling my mini float. The AAM 1150 rear axle in my ram was actually rated at 4950KG or roughly 10,900lb. Ram probably de-rates because the springs are a bit soft on the pickup to provide better ride quality for the grocery getter crowd. There is some margin of safety built in, ya know..

    The TP 4car is a much better choice IMHO over the Appalachian or Kaufman for that matter. The 8k axles are much more up to the task in a commercial operation. More capacity, bigger bearings, 17.5" tires are nice, & brakes almost twice as wide. (12"×2" vs 12.25"× 3&3/8") Way more stopping power. Hopefully TP uses dexter axles too, instead of the lipperts Kaufman uses. Dexter is the best quality light duty axle on the market..
     
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    24kHotshot Heavy Load Member

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    Actually just put a deposit on an upgraded model with triple 9k axles, winch and heavy duty mesh floor with a 27k rating. They use their own axles that they build according to the sales person I spoke to. Heard good things about their customer service and warranty which I hope I wont have to ever use. Hopefully I pass my road test on the 25th and should be picking up the trailer by the 28-29 and then off to Tallahassee to register it all and get to work.
     
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    singlescrewshaker Road Train Member

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    Right on!! I did not know they built their own axles. Learn something new everyday. :)
    Dexter 8k, 9k, & 10k GD (general duty) all have the same size 3&3/8" wide brake pads. I'm sure Texas Pride's are the same or close in size..

    When you get your trailer tag make sure to say it's a 5th wheel coupled semi trailer. (which it is) You're going to want a permanent tag for it. One time fee, like $125 bucks roughly & your done as long as you own the trailer. Lots of guys seem to miss this, as I see lots of regular old FL tags on hotshots all the time..

    Good luck on your test.! Brush up on the pre trip, it's a lot to remember..
     
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    24kHotshot Heavy Load Member

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    Yea, their axle parts are universal standard they said. I can get the parts at any trailer parts store. Brake pads are 3&3/8" wide.

    All I am doing lately is practicing the pre trip and air brakes. The only part that is making me nervous. Driving/backing is the easy part.
     
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