I wouldn’t do flatbed with new authority this day in age, it’s rough and the broker buddies I have all tell me flatbed market is dead atm. Who ever has freight has it, who ever doesn’t it’s hard to get it.
Dry van then work your way up.
"I am interested in starting a trucking business."
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TripleSix, Jun 22, 2019.
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Regardless of what you choose, never head out without cash in your pocket. Cash is how you bribe the tow guy to put you down. Youre gonna be peeing on no parking signs and one day youll wake up with the nose in the air. You can block your nose from tow guy but ya cant stop the boot.
Cash will get you uncuffed. Itll also get the loader to stay late waiting on you when you call and say "hey im the 4pm appointment running late, gps say 4:26. Tell the loader i will pay $40 to get loaded today."TripleSix and Fabulous Maximus Thank this. -
I didn’t even think about bribes, but I will def be rolling with cash on hand. Better to have and not need...
Thanks Lond I will keep that in mind and stay doing research, i’ll Probably start with dry van since that seems to offer the most versatility.Lepton1 and LoneRanger Thank this. -
Tow guy is gonna demand the money, so ransom is probably a better word. The loader staying late for you, i just consider it a tip for great service. I pass out poptarts to all my loaders just to be friendly.
An actual bribe to get ahead in line of someone else, i consider unethical. Just like blowing past everyone who is merging. I believe in blocking the open lane from cutters so everyone in traffic gets to roll thru the same without being cheated by selfish jerks.dwells40, Fabulous Maximus and spindrift Thank this. -
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Sounds like the difference between someone asking a question to learn something, versus rationalize what they're going to do anyway. With a large cup of immediate gratification thrown in for good measure.
You're seeing the product of the information age. The number of aspiring business owners who have done actual work a some point earlier in their life is diminishing every day.
I don't think there is any special set of life experiences or apprenticeship time required to be successful in a trucking venture. On the other hand, I do believe one needs the knack for solving problems and a willingness to own the consequences. Without enough of the last two, all the first two in the world won't have much value.TripleSix, Gearjammin' Penguin, shogun and 6 others Thank this. -
After a month or so, my friend shut the coffee shop down. Why? Because he didn't like having to get up early in the morning. "I'm not a morning person, Six."
If I were opening a coffee shop downtown, when would I expect for my busiest rush to be?
This is what concerns me about your post:
After reading through all of the horror stories about trucking companies and seeing so much toxicity on forums and elsewhere I was starting to get biased against the idea of being a company driver.
There are lots of guys who come in with the same idea and the same questions as you. Why do they want to be an owner operator? Because of the horror stories they've been listening to. You mean you've never heard any owner operator horror stories?
Why do you want to be an owner operator?
I had that asked to me once. I was a company driver, in the top 3 of 2500 trucks, making $2k/week. Were there horror stories? Sure. In fact, I took over the payments of the truck of an owner operator at the same company who was 6 months behind on his truck payment. How's that for horror story? Well, I took over the payment and notified the company and they wanted to talk to me and school me on the in's and out's of being an owner op. So we all sat at a table and they asked me why I wanted to be an owner operator.
In the horror stories, you hear about the dreaded lunch counter, the stomping ground for the supertrucker, the end all and be all of trucking, been driving since God was talking to Moses and has pulled every load known to man and knows everything there is about trucking. Sit there. You will see some fool come in and tell you about how trucking was in the good ol days and that now, trucking is no fun and that 'we can't make any money anymore out here.' Don't speak, just listen. Within 5 minutes you will hear drivers tell you why they don't make money and it's almost always self-inflicted. "I dont go to the northeast. I don't run at night. I don't drive in the rain. I park as soon as I hear the word snow. I'm in Wisconsin and there's a hurricane heading to Florida!"
I remember strapping down a load at a shipper and a driver asked me where I was going. I told him northern Alberta. He wanted to know where that was, and when I told him, he shook his head and told me how he wouldn't go there regardless of how much it paid. That's good to know, hand. I wasn't going to bother to tell him how much it paid anyway.
In the open deck world, it's the dreaded tarp. When they start talking about tarp, watch the sidewalk sissies shudder in fear. When I was a company schmuck, I tarped. It didn't pay much then. But I was learning with their tarps. With certain loads, if you mess up, you will ruin a set of tarps. You do not want to mess up a tarp job on a high dollar load. When you're in a company truck, pulling a company flat, they beat the regs into your head. You will tarp and tarp and tarp, and when you get done, you will tarp some more. Oh, and you STILL have to drive. The owner ops do not have to tarp. They are not taught how to tarp. But, how hard can it be? Yeah, it's just like wrapping a gigantic Christmas present with a 150 lb roll of wrapping paper. Oh, and the wrapping paper has to withstand 70mph wind. Do it wrong, and you ruin a set of tarps and risk a claim on the cargo.
The lady asked me, "You do well as a company driver...why do you want to be an owner operator?"
Because I am leaving too much money at the table.Gearjammin' Penguin, D.Tibbitt, FlaSwampRat and 3 others Thank this. -
I bought up a fleet of five trucks a few years back, we reviewed the contracts before hand and knew that the carrier it was leased to had a non-compete in the contract, so I told thencarrier representive that we were open to renegotiating the contract which threw the guy off, he thought that we would continue with the bs contract and be happy about it. One thing I had crossed off was the non-compete clause and they said that it had to stay, I said nope because we have a common customer and they can't hold anyone to it, no matter what their reason was, and I terminated the contact. A few months later we were served and the lawyer went to court with a pile of research and after he was done, the judge tossed the case.Gearjammin' Penguin, D.Tibbitt, Lepton1 and 4 others Thank this. -
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That’s really good to hear for the future, thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, I don’t know much about the trucking world yet, I’m just beginning to learn. I was only saying that I’m familiar with what a non-compete is (in other industries) and if I saw that in a contract I would be walking away immediately lol.
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