How much would it take.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by starmac, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    Yes 640 acres is 1 square mile. I bought 4 of them, and selling my daughter 3 of the 4, the 1 the houses and shop are on, yes she gets my house to as part of the deal. I will keep 1 parcel and sell it in approximately 5 acre lots....all but the nicest 3 lots that I plan to keep, and build my new home on. Will start construction a couple of years before I have to move out, and then it will be done. Being on the highest point i will have amazing views, and be close to my daughter and friends, but enough distance not to be right there for people to come ask me about work. Because I remarried a few months ago I will let her have a lot of input on the new house design as well. I'm already looking forward to retirement and it's 6 years away.
     
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  3. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    Why does $32.75 an hour sound like too much? Its enough for a decent living, not becoming rich or overpaid. Gravel trucks make really good money to, so places can afford to pay their drivers well. If someone else is willing to work ridiculously cheap, that is on them. Its between them and the cheapskates they work for. But it is also odd to believe that there are not people who make a good wage. My most senior low bed driver makes 73/hr base pay, time and a half after 8 hours, and double time over 11 hours. He is paid from the time he shows up at work until he gets into his pickup to drive home. I don't even have to think about him, and wonder if he crashed, or possibly hasn't chained a machine down correctly, or will deliver it late. He is more reliable than a Rolex watch, and just does his job. It is priceless to have an employee who can handle anything that I ask him to do, and does it perfectly year after year, for the 27 years he has been with me. I probably under pay him if anything. I drive heavy wrecker in the winter for a friend of mine, $150 hour as i am walking out to it on a call, $250 hour after the first 8 hours. If you are #### good at your job, then demand pay that is equal to what you are worth. My trucks can sit in the yard collecting dust to if someone doesn't like my rates. Cheaper to park them, than have them rolling on the miles, getting beat up, and burning fuel, unless they are making enough to justify it. One screw up by a bad driver is more costly than paying a good driver well. No different than if I were to be running rotator for my friend and send his truck, and the truck I'm recovering over a 2,000 foot cliff, and possibly kill people as well. Drivers make a conscious choice, as do employers, who they hire, and what they pay. Be glad he is being paid okay money, not great money, but okay money. I am always really happy when I pay a driver makes $700, $800, $900, or more a day, because it means they have had a good trip, and came home safely yet again. I best make this my very last post in this thread, before I say something nasty. It frustrates me when people seem to get mad because someone is making okay wages.
    And it isn't you BUMBACLADWAR, it is the many who are almost freaked out by people who make $160,000 - $270,000 a year. Why??? The truly overpaid people are politicians, people who play stupid games like football or baseball ,and actors. Throwing a ball around for 5 million a year is being overpaid.
     
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  4. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    Well, the flip side of the coin in my opinion is that as an employee, if you are at a crap job getting crap pay.. DONT BE too reliable or too competent because youre probably the only one, and youll get the other guys work piled on you every day for nothing. Its basically the epitome of why socialism doesnt ever work. If your only reward for hard work is more work, then youll quickly learn incompetence.

    Youve all heard the one about the welder at a new job test right? The foreman says the pay scale is between $10/hr ajd $25. One side gorgeous weld, other side popcorn and birdsh1!t. Whats this say the foreman? Well, thats my $25 weld and thats my $10 weld.

    Moral of the story is pay me good and ill be good out of fear ill lose a good job. Make me sit around 3 full days this week waiting for you to put a load on the trailer, and i just wont show up on time any more.
     
  5. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    That is the wrong attitude, if you are not satisfied with your job or pay, change jobs, don't be a bad hand or even a mediocre hand. I always tried to be the best hand on the job, period. I probably was on some jobs, and probably not on others, but It wasn't from lack of trying.
    I always figured if I took a job at a certain rate I would give 100% for that rate, till the minute I decided to leave.
     
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  6. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    That is perfect!
    And don't ever be scared to quit.
    If you think you should quit, then yes you should for sure.
     
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  7. FoolsErrand

    FoolsErrand Road Train Member

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    Wrong is yours to decide for your life, not mine. If youve never been unable to quit a job just yet then youve not walked in my shoes.

    I am a very hard worker, i have no other life besides work and never ever take the easy way. But if all im worth to you is $10/hr im not gonna give you $30/hr.
     
  8. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    Different people look at life differently I guess. I have been as broke an any man, married at 19 years old and had a family to support, and have worked at a lot of things to put food on the table, but not one day in my life did I have to have a particular job and could quit at a moments notice.
    I got my commercial license in 76, I have done other things besides drive at times, but have never seen the day since I was in high school that I could not make a couple of phone calls and get a job, period.
    The reason for that is because I do my best to make whoever I agree to work for, and the price I agree to does not even have anything to do with it.
     
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  9. freebeertomorrow

    freebeertomorrow Heavy Load Member

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    easy, don’t take the job to begin with.

    i’m not a saint or the worlds best worker. your comments make me think you are young, inexperienced and/or lazy. i hated working with people who have your attitude.
     
  10. plant

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    Pay per week is a pretty vague and pointless way to compare jobs.

    My friend works for Hub Group on a home depot dedicated account. He has a set schedule, day shift, sun-thurs, makes 2 drop and hooks per day and goes home. $1200 per week.

    I work a rotating schedule, 5 on 3 off, nights, delivering 4 hazmat loads per night that I have to load and unload myself. $2000 per week.

    Which job is better is entirely a matter of opinion. He likes his job, I like mine. It's not wrong to take a lower paying job if the schedule, workload, and pay fit your lifestyle. If pay was everything, none of these super loads would ever get hauled, because those guys don't even make that much. But they enjoy the challenge, the police escorts, pilot cars, and all of that stuff. It's fun for them, so they do it.
     
  11. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    Ok i really need to question this one.
    $1,800 a week average that’s $93,600 a year. Yeah while some do indeed make that, i highly doubt that is an average for many.

    I remember from my time at USX $35-$45k a year was tops. That was ‘04-‘08, so for the Megas i doubt wages have risen that much. Sure cpm’s have gone up, but with that weekly milages have gone down. Wasn’t it Heartland was the first to go to .50cpm back then. I remember the drivers crying about how the high cpm was a hoax because of the low weekly miles.

    I will admit i am out of touch. (Very much so) from 2010-2016 i was paid by then hour, then i bought my truck. I just find it a hard pill to swallow that many otr or regional drivers are near or above the six figure mark. There is the good company’s who do pay that well, but honestly how often do them jobs really come up?

    Ok private fleet or a specialized carrier i have no doubt you’re raking it in. Anyone running general freight i highly doubt it. I would put you in the $45-60k a year range.

    Like i said i am out of touch & can be totally wrong here, but i don’t see how many company’s hauling general freight can pay a driver $90,000 plus a year.
     
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