What is up with the questions about gearing?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Ridgeline, Aug 26, 2019.

  1. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Agreed. I would be surprised to see an 18 with a numerically higher final ratio than my .78. But then @starmac did say it was a log truck so who knows how old the trans is.
     
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  3. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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  4. TTNJ

    TTNJ Heavy Load Member

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    Really? Costs don’t matter? I never knew that.
     
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  5. 25(2)+2

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    The National lease affiliate we deal with is getting us (and others) 3.25 rears and transmissions that in high gear pull 5 mph per 100 rpm, 75 at 1500 rpm.

    I'd like an 18, but in top gear, the ratio is the same, I've driven 18s, too.

    The engines with down speed specs pull better at lower rpms, I can feel the difference from a 2018 Evolution to the 2013 I put 460k on from new, and I thought that one was good.

    Now the reason for the 18 over a 13 is in driveability at lower speeds and in reverse, it's easier to control and shift in adverse conditions, and you don't have that big gap between the low and high sides like a tall geared 13 had.

    The newest 13 I have driven was a 2005 Western Star, the best truck was a 2003 525 hp N14 powered FLD 120.

    I drove an older one that had been regeared with a higher ratio, Red Top Cummins (who knows what horsepower by then), and it was gueared with I'm guessing 373 or 390, by the speed and it did pull better with less shifting, I really liked the 18 spd for what we did going to farms off pavement. Then, I got a 13 speed with a Detroit, and drove that Western Star after that. Then came the nightmare of the Eaton Ultrashift.

    The company, when they bought trucks new, always got upscale specs, but they bought used trucks later, with direct drive 10 speeds. The power dividers won't last as long doing heavy work, even though the final ratios are the same because of gearing in the transmission, we had 5 of them, and all lost the power divider before a million miles, the ones from wrecks didn't last, but a new one did. The manual claimed the 10 speeds were good for up to 140k gvw. These were Rockwell.

    Another thing, the less losses from friction translated to getting away from you more quickly on a downgrade, in gear. I noticed that difference pretty quickly.

    I'd rather have a 9 than a 10 because of mph at the range shift, but I've now driven far more miles with 10 speeds than anything else.
     
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  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    I know that ... omg it is one of these days I want to just ... have fun ...
     
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  7. it's the 'puters doin it.
    it's like back in the day remember in the seventies when you bought A 4 banger Datsun or Toyota or little GM Iron Duke motor it couldn't get out of its own way and you also had the emergency brake when you kicked on the air conditioner.. that little Corolla mine did LOL..
    what is the state where you got these new cars coming out that have almost as much horsepower as a good old V8 from the 70s..which is crazy.
    trucks doing it now too
     
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  8. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

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    Well I believe the part of the older truck was best.
     
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  9. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    My log truck is what the 15 is in, and it wasn't always a log truck. lol
    It is an 88 model and used to have 2 lift axles for heavy haul.
     
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  10. Final Drive

    Final Drive Road Train Member

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    No can do that's only reserved for Cyndi Lauper
     
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  11. Oor

    Oor Road Train Member

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    Right up there with, "Never draw more in the morning than you can erase in the afternoon" .
     
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