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Hopper, Dump O/O's & Drivers

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by wheathauler, May 31, 2009.

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  1. Jul 7, 2009 #411
    PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    I figured Oakley to be about at best $1.05 a mile after converting to actual miles, miles going home when you're allowed to (that's OOR to them) etc. The free trailer makes a difference though. But I see a lot of those trucks at businesses that need 1000 truck company to handle it which also means long lines being the norm. Really cuts into the bottom line as well. I'd rather pay the tag and have the freedom from Eclipse.
     
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  3. Jul 7, 2009 #412
    M.Enterprises

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    I spoke with Oakley once. My opinion? You are looking at cheaper rates than just about anywhere, but you have less to worry about. To me, it sounded like a company driver/OO hybrid of some sort. Give up a little responsibility, and a little freedom right along with it.
     
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  4. Jul 7, 2009 #413
    wheathauler

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    Does sound a bit different...Never heard of leasing trailer for free
     
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  5. Jul 7, 2009 #414
    Big John

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    PharmPhail wrote:
    I agree on the freedom thing and I do like my freedom. They do pay you when you leave the house so that is a plus. They only run 30 or so hoppers so their not all that big but they run a bunch of end dumps. You figure the tag at .01 cpm and I wouldn't go as low as 1.05 the friends that I have had over have come up as much as 20 to 30 miles shorter then what they were paying because of the location of the desitination, doesn't happen on every load but a few from time to time.

    It don't matter who you pull for their are long lines from time to time and then their is the times you are sitting around waiting to unload because they don't have enough room but they wanted it in a hurry. I am just looking to see if it is worth buying a trailer or pulling some one else's during the bad times.
     
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  7. Jul 7, 2009 #415
    Big John

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    wheathauler wrote:
    When you lease on to someone and they have their own trailers they charge a percentage of the lease or Oakley, Autumn and a few others I have contacted they pay a fixed cpm and furnish the trailer. I talked to Atlantic Carriers and they wanted .08 cpm for trailer lease and he said they were around a 1.20 cpm to the truck and then you deduct the .08 cpm from that. I have always worked on percentage since I bought my first truck in 1993 and back when I pulled a hopper I got 70% and the company kept 30% for dispatch, cargo ins, liabilty ins, trailer use, paper work and billing.
     
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  8. Jul 7, 2009 #416
    bullhaulerswife

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    We are holding off on the trailer, and pulling the brokers trailer for now. When we completely depreciate out the truck, this next year, then we will buy the trailer.

    I'm not sure why you guys are getting paid by the mile, thats weird, we get paid by the ton, or hundred wt, most times, unless its grain, then its buy the bushel.

    We've done the wait game, more times than I care to count. But our guy charges them for it, when they have a hurry and get it load, and then they make us wait.

    Today, hubby is loading out of rail cars, some might have 4,000lbs some might have 2,000lbs AND he has to scale after each car is MT. At $7.50 each time, this is going to get expensive, plus he told him to keep track of his hours, because taking all day to load, no wheels turning, isn't making us any money and just burning fuel. So they will be paying for time as well.

    I've heard the Oakley ads on XM, felt that if they needed to advertise, then they pay pretty low.

    We've got a pretty decent set up for now, with our guy. So I think that we will be staying with him for a while.

    We also have a company here that re-sells used equipment, that we are working on a deal with, to haul now and then for them. Haven't worked out all the details yet, but we might be buying a low boy here in the future. We need an acreage. LOL:yes2557:

    Here's what hubby did, when he first called our guy to talk with him, the guy quoted us a pretty high percentage, hubby said "not interested, your too high." And hung up. The guy called us back 10 minutes later with a much lower percentage. They try to get every dime out of you they can. You have to let them know that your not going to be stepped on.
     
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  9. Jul 7, 2009 #417
    Big John

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    bullhaulerswife wrote:
    Your talking about purchasing a trailer?
     
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  10. Jul 7, 2009 #418
    Big John

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    Is anyone getting paid for sitting after you give them the first two hours when they have no room for the product?
     
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  11. Jul 7, 2009 #419
    wheathauler

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    Rates around here are anywhere from 1.00 to 1.30 cpm. That's the rate by figuring the rate per bushel. That's what the load actually pays...I have my own authority. Rates aren't going to go up much here until some of the cut throat outfits go under.

    One outfit came from SW Kansas... They competed against the Latinos, so they think our rates are good. Meaning they cut the rates here so they could haul it.
     
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  12. Jul 7, 2009 #420
    wheathauler

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    I think buying a trailer, when you can afford it, usually works out. There is isn't usually that much upkeep compared to a truck. That and you can depreciate it out which helps also.
     
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