Pay difference between Schneider and Landstar

@Expressolane, it sounds to me from what you are saying (if small sample size is accurate), is that LS people have to go through a little more difficulty in order to get basically the same income as Schneider people. LS driver mayyybe has to bargain up posted rates in order to make up for the 35% settlement subtraction as well. OP posted a good question, do the posted rates match? Of course they don’t. Schneider posts lower rates than LS. But... are the LS posted rates 35% higher than Schneider’s is the question. And do the LS rates go high enough to offset the tolls and other charges they have to pay that Schneider drivers do not have to pay.

- Points in Schneider’s favor seem to be, Schneider pay (most) tolls. LS, none. Ease of use when booking loads too. Large trailer pool. And I assume, terminal services as well?

- LS, well, you may (by virtue of the system) develop some relationships with brokers etc that can pay off at some point. But does it offset the perhaps annoying need to get on the phone to negotiate up posted rates that are yes higher, yet not 35% higher than Schneider’s posted rates? It would be great if LS would drop the shenanigans and bake in the 35% charge in their posted rates, and yet still post access to the brokers to haggle with. THEN, you’ve got a sweet advantage that is more apt for ease of comparison between the 2. Bottom line, we don’t know if the rates posted are 35% higher at LS than Schneider’s.

 

Why limit yourself to one companies load board? If you’re going to lease on somewhere, lease on to a good owner op company where you pick your freight on the open boards, unless you need the security blankie of a mega.

 

Why lease to someone just to haul broker freight of DAT and Truckstop. That’s stupid

 

I don’t, I run under my own numbers but a lot of people don’t want to, or can’t handle, everything that’s involved in that.

What makes it stupid in your eyes?

Going to Landstar and paying 35% to deal with their brokers doesn’t make sense to me. Schneider has a click and go system and plenty of freight, but you have to deal with their micro managing and trailer issues sometimes.

if I had to choose between the two, I’d pick Schneider. You’re better off going to an 80/20 or 85/15 owner op company.

There’s no one way to run a trucking business, it can be run a million different ways. Running off of one load board limits you, why limit your opportunities?

 

One of the other best moves you can make is to follow the advice of people that have never leased to either company, based on their hypothetical situations.

 

Post of the day!!

 

Here’s a true story for you guys. About 4 months ago, a friend of mine (own authority, 6 brand new trucks within 2 years) asks me to give his friend some Landstar tips. His friend was leased to one of these no direct freight, broker only carriers. He had just gotten approved for LS. I spent an hour or giving him the down and dirty.
I saw him in the parking lot tonight, his first time back. He’s all smiles telling me about his best week($8k)and his average weeks($6k) TO THE TRUCK. He’s a hard worker, has a first class conestoga setup, and is smart.
One of his friends, who was leased to the same place before, also leased to LS. He doesn’t seem to have the drive or nearly as nice of equipment. He’s going back to being a company driver. So 4 months at LS has one guy thinking about adding another truck, and another selling his equipment to drive for someone else. You control your destiny.

 

See everyone on this forum leased to Landstar averages $6K to the truck weekly.

I'm the only one that doesn't.

 

Are they van or flatbed?

 

I don’t either. But I only sleep in the truck 3-4 days a month. He stayed out 4 months. My point of the whole thing was here’s two guys that came from the same company previously, one excelled in the LS system and one failed. Self dispatch isn’t for everyone