New L/P operator with questions about minimizing costs

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  1. dtj12231989

    dtj12231989 Medium Load Member

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    Hey guys. I been busy working and finally got into a L/P truck. I have some questions regarding minimizing fuel costs. Now, before everyone here starts spouting off about how I made a big mistake and that I never should have leased a truck, I am NOT asking for your opinions. If I wanted that, I would haved asked a freaking alcoholic or drug addict. Now, since that is cleared up, I need some good real-world advice on minimizing my fuel costs and other costs. What is a good way to maximize my fuel mileage? What are good strategies for fueling up? Things like that will help me tremendously. Thanks.
     
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  3. tnevin225

    tnevin225 Road Train Member

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    What truck. Year make model. Engine make, HP rating, and what kind of trailer do you pull?
     
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  4. Mike250rs

    Mike250rs Heavy Load Member

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    Drive it like your on ice year round. Your not driving a race car, why wind it up just getting out of a parking lot?

    Learn where your truck likes to ride mph/rpm wise.
     
  5. dtj12231989

    dtj12231989 Medium Load Member

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    A 2020 International LT with the Cummins X15. I pull a 53 foot dry van. I'm not sure about the HP rating yet. I'm gonna have to look at it and see. I will look and see when I get settled for the night.
     
  6. pavrom

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    Eliminate idling ...it will not only save you on fuel but prolong yr engine life
     
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    pavrom Road Train Member

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    ...i believe someone mentioned earlier every 1 mph after 55 or 60 deduct 0.1mpg ... When i slowed down from 70-72 to 62-63 i have seen over 0.5mpg gain , also weight of the load , terrain .. some people say even tires
     
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  8. tnevin225

    tnevin225 Road Train Member

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    Start by going here, Let's Truck Store, Look under the Services tab. Get signed up for fuel gauges and keep track of your fuel economy. Its free and very helpful in keeping track of not just MPG but also cost per mile and maintenance costs. For fuel economy in general the slower the better, depending on the transmission and rear end setup I wouldn't push much over 68. My 2350 ISX loves to cruise about 66 at 1350 RPM. I have a 10 speed with 336 rears. There won't be a lot you can do to that truck since you don't actually own it. I would suggest air tabs but not sure your lease company would allow them.
     
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  9. Crazytrucker77

    Crazytrucker77 Heavy Load Member

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    Okay here we go with my novel LOL.

    So for every 1/10 of a mile per gallon you will save .006 cpm. So you save $600 per 1/10 mpg for every 100,000 miles you drive.

    On the other side of the equation for every .01 per gallon saved when purchasing fuel you will save $147.06 for every 100,000 miles driven.

    There are so many variables in increasing your fuel mileage that you just have to try what you can think of and figure out what meet your goals and you're happy with. Here is a list of things I have tried myself with varying results.

    1 use cruise control as much as possible

    2 don't use cruise control at all and drive by the boost gauge keeping it under 20 lb of boost as much as possible.

    3. Try driving at different speeds. Started out at 65 went as low as 58.

    4 when getting to the top of a hill not increasing my speed and letting the downhill do it for me without any throttle.

    5. Try to not pass other vehicles as much as possible. Staying consistent on the throttle we'll always get better mpg.

    6. Avoid traffic as much as possible. Basically speeding up and slowing down a lot is what eats gas. If I have the time to stop and pull over for 30 minutes to an hour so the traffic can get better I do it.

    Basically it's really just the driver. Just try these things for at least a week at a time per suggestion. Calculate what your fuel mileage is and what you as a driver can put up with doing then go from there. I myself have figured out that I can deal with being on cruise control as much as possible at 60 miles an hour and not trying to pass every one on the freeway and still make good time. I went from 6.3 mpg over the span of a month to 6.8 miles per gallon consistently over the last year. Even though I can get an extra 3/10 of mpg driving by the boost gauge with no cruise control I hate driving like that so I don't do it.

    So now let's discuss purchasing fuel. This to is up to what the driver wants to deal with. You will fall into one of two mentalities. You will either account for the IFTA tax when calculating the fuel price or you wont and here's why.

    If you take the ifta tax into account when calculating fuel cost was that means is that you are still paying the higher price for the fuel at that point in time but saving on your quarterly IFTA payment. This means you would spend more money now to save money later.

    On the other hand if you are like me and don't account for the ifta tax and are just buying the cheaper fuel based on the pump price then you are spending less money now but we'll have a higher IFTA quarterly payment. Once again it is just up to the driver. I myself don't mind spending a few hundred dollars every 3 months rather than spending significantly more than that to save some every 3 months.

    So when purchasing fuel find out what fuel stations you get a discount at from your carrier or fuel card. If the fuel card has an app that will give you the pump price definitely use it. If not there are plenty of apps out there that will give you the current fuel price pretty much everywhere.

    As far as other ways to save money I could talk your ear off for a few hours. But I'll give you a few pointers.

    1 shop around for someone to do your maintenance on your truck. Let me put it this way i save $150 - $250 / per PM service by using the dealer of my truck rather than a truck stop.

    2. Do as much of the work on your truck yourself as you can. But also remember your time is worth something. So definitely shop around to see if you're actually saving anything by doing it yourself.

    3 definitely get a good accountant that is experienced in this industry. My accountant has saved me thousands on my taxes. The original accountant I had was not well versed in the trucking industry and told me my first quarterly payment was $6,500 the accountant I ended up with did my whole year and I only paid $7250.

    Well this is long enough so I'm cutting it off now hope some of this information helps.
     
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  10. dtj12231989

    dtj12231989 Medium Load Member

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    I have already found out the my truck loves it when I stay at a steady 60 to 66 mph depending on the weight of the load. That usually keeps the rpm around 1000 to 1150.
     
  11. dtj12231989

    dtj12231989 Medium Load Member

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    Those are good points. I will address what I have found out on my own so far individually.

    1. Cruise control helps me majorly when I am on a relatively flat road. It keeps the speed steady.

    2. Cruise control kills my fuel mileage in the mountains as the upgrades usually are too much to keep a constant speed.

    3. I have tried different speeds and have found that under a full 43000 to 45000 lb load, a speed of 61 or 62 is good on relatively flat terrain. I have averaged about 7.2 to 7.5 MPG doing that. Now, when I am unloaded whether it be going out pick up another load or going home, I will run the truck as fast as it will go, 66 mph. It won't nowhere near as much fuel.

    4. That's a good point and I haven't thought of that but I am going to try it out.

    5. Hehe. That's true. I just don't like making people mad but then again, they aren't paying for my truck are they?

    6. This point is where I need some help. I mean I know that avoiding traffic will help keep my fuel mileage up but my thing when I have two possible routes and both of them have heavy traffic or traffic jams on them, what do I need to do then?


    As for purchasing fuel, the ifta tax is taken outta my settlement. So that is a moot point. My question on this was, is there any good strategies to fueling up? Like full tanks each time or fill up no more than what you need? I have experimented with this a little bit and found that one complete fill up per week and just doing 50 to 80 gallons as needed is doing good for me. Also, how do y'all deal with fueling in the north east?
     
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